Ah, the things you see on Twitter. Victorious fans got an eyeful earlier this week when the show’s stars, Victoria Justice and Ariana Grande appeared to have a very public spat about the reasons for the hit Nickelodeon’s show early ending. The drama apparently started when a fan on Ask.Fm blamed Ariana‘s new show for Victorious’ cancellation. “Sam & Cat ruined Victorious,” they wrote.
Ariana responded swiftly, and clearly blamed the show’s star Victoria. “Sweetheart the only reason Victorious ended is because 1 girl didn’t want to do it,” she wrote. “She chose to do a solo tour instead of a cast tour. If we had done a cast tour Nickelodeon would have ordered another season of Victorious while Sam and Cat filmed simultaneously but she chose otherwise. I’m sick of this bs.”
And Victoria was just as quick to respond to Ariana via Twitter. “Some people would throw some1 they consider a friend under the bus just 2 make themselves look good. #StopBeingAPhony #IfTheyOnlyKnew,” she shot back.
But the fight didn’t end there. “You just can’t hide from the truth,” Ariana tweeted.
Both Victoria and Ariana have deleted their tweets and messages, but not before fans and followers had time to witness the drama that went down. Will these two former “best friends” be able to patch things up? Time – and Twitter – will tell.
Pffft, Who care’s the show was going to end and why was Victoria getting upset? It’s the truth she wanted to go on tour she shouldn’t get mad. Go ahead Ariana you tell her
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Only an idiot would be on Ariana’s side for this. Fact of the matter is she was being a bratty bitch. Her immaturity won’t get her far in life.
Maybe it is the truth but you dont put your friend in blast like that. That just goes to show that little miss muffet Ariana doesnt know how to handle media pressure. i bet if she were your partner in crime she blast you out first ….just sad ….in other words if Ariana has nothing nice to say she should keep it to herself ….unproffesional
Actually, ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG! It wasn’t Victoria’s fault nor was it Ariana’s. the show ended because the max number of episodes was reached. Which Victoria signed in 2009. Ariana could have just said the truth instead of blaming Victoria. I love both girls,but honestly ariana really should not have said that.
Wow, I always knew Ariana Grande was a bitch. But blaming the show’s cancelation on one girl? Thats a shitty move. Fluck you Grande, and your loser fanbase.
No, Ariana was just telling the truth. The show can’t be called ‘Victorious’ if Victoria can’t hide it. Ariana Grande isn’t a bitch, she’s just sick of people saying it’s her and Jennette’s fault for Victorious cancelation
Nikki you’re an idiot. Nobody blamed Jennet for the show ending. Also there is hardly any truth to this and seeing as how Ariana deleted the ask, thats an indication of someone who’s guilty. Fact of the matter is Victorious ended because it was loosing ratings. Derp!
How am I an Idiot for sticking up to my Idol? You want to see an Idiot o look inn the fucking mirror
Actually james both ariana and victoria deleted their posts in twitter. read the whole article again!
Darling, It wasn’t loosing ratings. It was Nickelodeon’s most watched show!
I never liked Ariana Grande. Now I have a reason to truly dislike her. Fuck this red headed annoying bitch/
Ariana made her comment very specifically. We see their posts. These are their words. That is the only thing that won’t lie to you.- is what they posted on the Internet. Why would she make something like this up? It wouldn’t not make any sense. The giveaway is when Victoria says in her comment “Some people would throw Some1 they consider a friend UNDER THE BUS just to make themselves look good”. The key words there are under the bus. When someone expresses that they feel they have been thrown “under the bus”, that means that they are GUILTY of the action that they are being accused of. And Victoria’s poor excuse for that is that Ariana just wants to make herself look better. That may be true. It’s probably not because I personally feel that she was just clearing up a misunderstanding and felt a responsibility to avoid gossip on her page. She took action to correct a falsehood. She did the right thing speaking up and acting swiftly because this could have gone much further than neccessary. I miss Victorious but if the comments posted above were the entity of the entire cyber fight between these two ladies, I think it’s safe to say what I’m about to say. If Ariana, for a good reason, was so cleverly careful not to mention anyone by name, then I don’t understand why Victorious would even respond. Because when she responded, she made matters worse for herself in three ways. First, the arguements could have kept going and we would never know when this would end.- severing a friendship in the end result. Second, by even responding to Ariana’s comment, Victoria admitted that she was the subject of the conversation. Now who looks like the one asking for attention? O maybe everybody already connected the cancellation of the show to victoria. I dunno. But Victoria’s silly, poorly thought out action are like this example here:
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Victoria Justice.
Fans: “Who took the cookie from the cookie jar?”
Victoria: “Why’d you have to tell anyone that I took the cookie?”
Fans: “I didn’t say you did. But at least now we know.”
Victoria basically gave herself away instead of doing what I personally would have done so that no one would know it was me(if no one had already been certain), which is, “keep my mouth shut until it all goes away.” Ariana tried to hep her out by not snitchin, but she ended up snitchin on herself.
one word: agreed
One word: You’re an idiot. Ok that’s three words but it’s true. YOu are a moron.
Lenny D, I read what you wrote, and not only do you come off as someone who is completely idiotic in their response and completely OFF in their logic, but you also come off as someone who has no idea what they are talking about.
“Ariana made her comment very specifically. We see their posts. These are their words. That is the only thing that won’t lie to you.- is what they posted on the Internet. Why would she make something like this up?”
She already told you WHY she would make something like this up. Its because she was getting sick of the hate she was getting and she had to cast blame on this somewhere else. She even APOLOGIZED for it because she knew what she said was wrong. Fact of the matter is One girl doesn’t have the power to cancel a show. Only a moron would think the way you do.
“It wouldn’t not make any sense. The giveaway is when Victoria says in her comment “Some people would throw Some1 they consider a friend UNDER THE BUS just to make themselves look good”. The key words there are under the bus.”
I don’t know if I should laugh at you for sounding so stupid or just feel sorry for this pitiful word analysis. Do you NOT know how defense works? People defend themselves from accusations NOT because they are guilty of it. But because they are NOT guilty of it. Or because they had a reason to do so. Because Ariana didn’t call her out by name if anything should be an indication of someone lying. Not the other way around.
“When someone expresses that they feel they have been thrown “under the bus”, that means that they are GUILTY of the action that they are being accused of.”
No it doesn’t. In fact most of the time it means they are NOT guilty of something and they are defending them selves from a malicious accusation. THIS is how defense works. NOT your pitiful explanation which makes zero sense.
“And Victoria’s poor excuse for that is that Ariana just wants to make herself look better. That may be true. It’s probably not because I personally feel that she was just clearing up a misunderstanding and felt a responsibility to avoid gossip on her page. She took action to correct a falsehood.”
How is it not true? If she didn’t want to make herself look better than she wouldn’t have done it in the first place. She’s a public figure. Meaning that getting hate from idiots online is part of her job. This also means GOSSIP comes with the territory especially if you are a celebrity. Fact is she doesn’t have any info on WHY a show ended and blamed it on one girl. Which if you think about it has NO way of ending the show. Because guess what? Solo Tours do NOT end TV shows. Bad ratings do.
“She did the right thing speaking up and acting swiftly because this could have gone much further than neccessary.”
Thats funny you say she did the right thing when ever her own CAST mates didn’t come to her aid. Even the network executives denied her this. Normally they just wouldn’t comment but the fact that they intervened should have told you something else. You have no idea what you are talking about.
“I miss Victorious but if the comments posted above were the entity of the entire cyber fight between these two ladies, I think it’s safe to say what I’m about to say. If Ariana, for a good reason, was so cleverly careful not to mention anyone by name, then I don’t understand why Victorious would even respond.”
Because it was CLEARLY about here you idiot. Just because she didnt MENTION her doesn’t make it less devious or wrong. Vic didn’t mention Ariana’s name in her tweet. I can use your logic on you. How do YOU know it was about Ariana? Your lack of logic is pretty bad here. And you really have no idea what you are talking about.
“Because when she responded, she made matters worse for herself in three ways. First, the arguements could have kept going and we would never know when this would end.- severing a friendship in the end result.”
What? No really? What? What the heck are you talking about? How did this make things worse for her? Almost everyone, aside from Ariana’s mentally retarded fanbase was on Vic’s side. Nobody came to Ariana’s aid except for her idiotic boyfriend who has little to no pull. The executives on Victorious even came to Victoria’s aid and pulled out their magic PR fixing abilites on VIC’s end. Also the only reason this friendship was severed was because of what ARIANA did. Not because of what VIC did. Ariana still follows Victoria justice on twitter. Not the other way around. So I don’t see what your logic is saying here.
“Second, by even responding to Ariana’s comment, Victoria admitted that she was the subject of the conversation.”
Of couse she was the subject of the conversation. She was only girl who went on a solo tour. Who else would the conversation be about? Any idiot who follows this show KNOWS that she was the only girl who went on a solo tour. So ARIANA gave her away with that. You are completely clueless and incredibly stupid.
“Victoria basically gave herself away instead of doing what I personally would have done so that no one would know it was me(if no one had already been certain), which is, “keep my mouth shut until it all goes away.” Ariana tried to hep her out by not snitchin, but she ended up snitchin on herself.”
But it was already about her. She gave MASSIVE hints as to who it was about and people could already connect it. She said ONE GIRL went on a solo tour. Only ONE GIRL from the cast went on a solo tour that year. It was Victoria Justice. What Ariana did was place blame on ONE girl which was wrong. What you are saying is completely illogical because people already knew. So of course she was going to defend herself. Ariana pretty much told everyone what happened. Why wouldn’t vic defend herself? If I gave people hints that you were a murderer and a rapist I think you would want to defend YOURSELF right?
Please educate yourself on this matter because you sound incredibly ignorant.
i agree with you however everyone knew victoria was going on a solo tour so basically ariana was directing it to victoria without her even responding or confirming the accuracy.
Well 2 be honest Victoria done da right thing by answering cuz lets put it dis way yh, sum1 is chatting shit about u, r u jst gonna sit there and read I think npt, cuz judging by the way ur doing it for sum1else den its a little obvious u would do the same, im not sayon Arianas wrong but she should hav not sed anything offensive and could’ve jst made it clear it wernt her bit blaming Victoria was jst a bitch move n lastly, Victoria chooses wat she wants 2 do n wat she dnt, well after all it is her career n her life so she gets 2 live it the way she wants 2, n also its a little obvious Ariana was talkin about her so fdwr is no point in beating around the bush so she might aswell make it c
U’r wrong actually.Its obvious to every one that ariana was reffering to vic. She’s the star of the show remember?I love both girls but u have to admit that ariana made a wrong move in passing the blame to victoria.Every one knows it’s victoria going on a tour so ariana wasn’t being the least bit subtle.She openly called victoria out and vic had to defend herself.It was ari’s fan page afterall.She could have just easily ignored the question.The whole thing is just sad cause it would be devastating to see such good friends and co-stars part ways with harsh words.
Dude that’s a horrible example
M sure people knew that victora was goin on a solo tour so without even sayin her name fans would kno it was her and she was kinda defendin herself
The fight all started cuz of the fans talkin shit and her defendin herself aswell so y not b a fan n stop tlkin shit be a lil more grown up about it
Listen guys, victori juustice is my idol!!!!! and i dont think its right for u guys to send hate to victoria!! this tour wouldnt have interferred with victorious anyway!! its no wonder ariana grande wasnt the star of victorious u know why? shes not a star in any circumstance! Stop being an idiot ariana u suck!!!!!! And Go victoria for being the best romodel ever i have NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING against u xx
Obviously you’re an idiot if you thin Victorious being on tour wouldn’t effect the show u.u Julie, stop being a fan girl it’s Victorious fault 100% Ariana was telling the truth
@Noah The only idiot here is you for calling her VICTORIOUS when her name is VICTORIA you dumb ass. Second no. Solo tours do NOT end shows. Bad ratings do. And Victorious has been in a ratings slump for a while now.
You still don’t get it do you Lenny D? Alright try this again.
“First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place?”
It’s called a DEFENSE for a reason. You DEFND yourself against someone who is making a malicious accusation against you. Its natural for anyone to defend them selves against something that is frankly WRONG. Any idiot would tell you that one girl going on a solo tour wouldn’t cancel a show. So of course Vic would defend herself.
“Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something.”
In this case you do especially if your own FRIEND is the one making a malicious accusation. Why wouldn’t she defend herself against something like this? What you say again is senseless and stupid.
“You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly.”
Of course she was talking about her you idiot. She singled her out by action so of course she was talking about her. Who else would she talk about?
“Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with.”
But she didn’t say ONE girl she said, “One girl who went on a solo tour.” Who went on a solo tour that year? Was it Liz Gillies? Nope. Avan Jogia? Haven’t heard anything from him. Daniella Monet? She’s not big enough for a solo tour. There was only ONE person on that show who was big enough to go on a solo tour and she did. Who else went on a solo tour that year that summer? Please tell me because I’m dying to know.
“In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately.”
Why should she? Ariana already made this a public matter when she posted that. Why should Victoria keep her mouth shut when she was practically called out by name? If someone was calling me out by name I would respond back.
“It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about.”
And she did. Because she was called out by name. Or by the indication. Again One girl who WENT on a solo tour. Who went on a solo tour that year? She did.
“She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.””
She said “one girl who went on a solo tour.” Get it right you blithering idiot.
“Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly.”
No, no one would agree on this with you because of how asinine you sound. This whole thing started because Ariana decided to be a bitch and place ALL the blame on ONE friend. That is why people are upset with her. Because of her actions. Anyone who isn’t a complete moron would know that a solo tour wouldn’t cancel the show. If they wanted to find a way to keep the show going, they would have done so and a solo tour wouldn’t make much difference since Vic could have filmed the show after the tour ended. So no, no one would agree with you on this because its not plausible. Rumors start. Thats what they do. Ariana could have said nothing and none of this would have happened. But blaming your friend on something she didnt do?
“We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end.”
Because it was HER FAULT. SHE started this whole thing by posting this. She could have said nothing and just ride out the hate she was getting, and she still would have been friends with vic and that would be it. But no she decided to put the blame on ONE girl and common sense SHOULD tell you “Hey, one girl is responsible for the end of an entire show? That makes no sense!”
“Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.”
It WAS about her you invalid. She singled her out by name. She said “one girl who went on tour this year.” who else went on a tour that year? If I said “There’s a stupid girl posting on this thread that goes by the initials L.D” I think people would know who I am talking about.
DO the world a favor and educate yourself.
so its not fine to hate on victoria but its cool for you to hate on ariana? you are a crazy hypocrite!
i think Victoria is right because Ariana had no right to blame her for the cancellation. even she wanted the fans to stop blaming her i dont think she should have dumped the blame on a close friend. Plus, if it did end because of the tour, wouldnt you think they would have at least had a proper series finale? Thats why i think its the network that decided to end the series. I love you Ariana G and Victoria J! Hope you become friends again! : D
I think they thought they were going to make another season but since the network wanted them to stop at 60, with all the episodes already made, they didn’t have time to make a proper series finale. I dont think going on a solo tour had anything to do with the shows ending. I love you Victoria And Ariana. Please just make up and Be Friends Again!
And finally, Ienny D, i dont think by Victoria saying Ariana threw her under the bus meant that she did it. She’s just saying instead of Ariana handling it herself, she sacrificed Victoria so she would LOOK like shes the reason why it ended. All victoria said was that now she made everyone look like she caused the cancellation.Even though she didnt. Your Cookie Jar bit made no sense to me because she didnt say she did it in any way.
First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place? Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something. You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly. Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with. In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately. It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about. She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.” Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly. We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end. Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.
I miss my favorite show on T.V that inspired me everyday to follow my dreams.
Oi vey. You still don’t get it do you Lenny D? Alright try this again.
“First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place?”
It’s called a DEFENSE for a reason. You DEFND yourself against someone who is making a malicious accusation against you. Its natural for anyone to defend them selves against something that is frankly WRONG. Any idiot would tell you that one girl going on a solo tour wouldn’t cancel a show. So of course Vic would defend herself.
“Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something.”
In this case you do especially if your own FRIEND is the one making a malicious accusation. Why wouldn’t she defend herself against something like this? What you say again is senseless and stupid.
“You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly.”
Of course she was talking about her you idiot. She singled her out by action so of course she was talking about her. Who else would she talk about?
“Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with.”
But she didn’t say ONE girl she said, “One girl who went on a solo tour.” Who went on a solo tour that year? Was it Liz Gillies? Nope. Avan Jogia? Haven’t heard anything from him. Daniella Monet? She’s not big enough for a solo tour. There was only ONE person on that show who was big enough to go on a solo tour and she did. Who else went on a solo tour that year that summer? Please tell me because I’m dying to know.
“In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately.”
Why should she? Ariana already made this a public matter when she posted that. Why should Victoria keep her mouth shut when she was practically called out by name? If someone was calling me out by name I would respond back.
“It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about.”
And she did. Because she was called out by name. Or by the indication. Again One girl who WENT on a solo tour. Who went on a solo tour that year? She did.
“She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.””
She said “one girl who went on a solo tour.” Get it right you blithering idiot.
“Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly.”
No, no one would agree on this with you because of how asinine you sound. This whole thing started because Ariana decided to be a bitch and place ALL the blame on ONE friend. That is why people are upset with her. Because of her actions. Anyone who isn’t a complete moron would know that a solo tour wouldn’t cancel the show. If they wanted to find a way to keep the show going, they would have done so and a solo tour wouldn’t make much difference since Vic could have filmed the show after the tour ended. So no, no one would agree with you on this because its not plausible. Rumors start. Thats what they do. Ariana could have said nothing and none of this would have happened. But blaming your friend on something she didnt do?
“We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end.”
Because it was HER FAULT. SHE started this whole thing by posting this. She could have said nothing and just ride out the hate she was getting, and she still would have been friends with vic and that would be it. But no she decided to put the blame on ONE girl and common sense SHOULD tell you “Hey, one girl is responsible for the end of an entire show? That makes no sense!”
“Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.”
It WAS about her you invalid. She singled her out by name. She said “one girl who went on tour this year.” who else went on a tour that year? If I said “There’s a stupid girl posting on this thread that goes by the initials L.D” I think people would know who I am talking about.
DO the world a favor and educate yourself.
I agree with James! But i dont think ariana made the show cancelled either. it was all the networks fault
Guys tours don’t cancel shows and if u didn’t kno Ariana apologized they are 20 years old they probably already talked it out and we all kno why it got cancelled. Because nickelodeon is just stupid and wants to put on dumb shows and Victorious isn’t in that category. I love Ari and Vic but this whole thing is stupid let them handle and let’s not point blame at anyone
I agree with you Lenny D. Victoria shouldnt have responded. But also I think that the reason Victoria defended herself is because she thought if she didnt, everyone would now start accusing her and hating her. Like Lance Armstrong. When the people sued him or something for using steroids, he didnt respond. So now everyone was mad and was really accusing him for using the drugs. Thats why I kinda agree with why Victoria did just that. But i think that she should have said it in another way. Also in Ariana’s statement, she did say onegirl. Though everyone already knew that Victoria was the one she was talking about,( because she the one going on tour), i dont think she pointed the finger on herself. i think that she knew that Ariana was talking her, and that everyone who saw the tweet knew that she was talking about her, so she had to defend herself in some way because who else would she be talking about. that is why i think in a good way it was great for victoria to defend herself. And thank you for replying to me. I love VICTORiOUS! I’ll MISS you!
I don’t know about you guys but I personally believed that everything has a beginning & an end. No one should be blamed for that.
By the way, Victoria did the right thing by defending herself. Ariana should not have blamed her for the cancellation of Victorious.
If Victoria wanted to go on tour, it’s her choice to make, no one else can make that choice for her.
Plus if her tour starts on June 19, she would have 5 good months to film new episodes. Then when she finishes her tour, she can now film another season after that. So it was TOTALLY the networks fault. So hate the NETWORK.
Lenny D you still don’t get it do you? Alright try this again.
“First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place?”
It’s called a DEFENSE for a reason. You DEFND yourself against someone who is making a malicious accusation against you. Its natural for anyone to defend them selves against something that is frankly WRONG. Any idiot would tell you that one girl going on a solo tour wouldn’t cancel a show. So of course Vic would defend herself.
“Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something.”
In this case you do especially if your own FRIEND is the one making a malicious accusation. Why wouldn’t she defend herself against something like this? What you say again is senseless and stupid.
“You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly.”
Of course she was talking about her you idiot. She singled her out by action so of course she was talking about her. Who else would she talk about?
“Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with.”
But she didn’t say ONE girl she said, “One girl who went on a solo tour.” Who went on a solo tour that year? Was it Liz Gillies? Nope. Avan Jogia? Haven’t heard anything from him. Daniella Monet? She’s not big enough for a solo tour. There was only ONE person on that show who was big enough to go on a solo tour and she did. Who else went on a solo tour that year that summer? Please tell me because I’m dying to know.
“In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately.”
Why should she? Ariana already made this a public matter when she posted that. Why should Victoria keep her mouth shut when she was practically called out by name? If someone was calling me out by name I would respond back.
“It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about.”
And she did. Because she was called out by name. Or by the indication. Again One girl who WENT on a solo tour. Who went on a solo tour that year? She did.
“She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.””
She said “one girl who went on a solo tour.” Get it right you blithering idiot.
“Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly.”
No, no one would agree on this with you because of how asinine you sound. This whole thing started because Ariana decided to be a bitch and place ALL the blame on ONE friend. That is why people are upset with her. Because of her actions. Anyone who isn’t a complete moron would know that a solo tour wouldn’t cancel the show. If they wanted to find a way to keep the show going, they would have done so and a solo tour wouldn’t make much difference since Vic could have filmed the show after the tour ended. So no, no one would agree with you on this because its not plausible. Rumors start. Thats what they do. Ariana could have said nothing and none of this would have happened. But blaming your friend on something she didnt do?
“We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end.”
Because it was HER FAULT. SHE started this whole thing by posting this. She could have said nothing and just ride out the hate she was getting, and she still would have been friends with vic and that would be it. But no she decided to put the blame on ONE girl and common sense SHOULD tell you “Hey, one girl is responsible for the end of an entire show? That makes no sense!”
“Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.”
It WAS about her you invalid. She singled her out by name. She said “one girl who went on tour this year.” who else went on a tour that year? If I said “There’s a stupid girl posting on this thread that goes by the initials L.D” I think people would know who I am talking about.
DO the world a favor and educate yourself.
So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are mentally retarded, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.
I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.
So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.
Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.
Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.
Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.
So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.
The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being a bitch.
So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.
I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Lik oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.
You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.
Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially retarded teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course theyre going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.
I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.
Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.
And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.
You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.
So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are mentally retarded, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.
I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.
So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.
Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.
Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.
Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.
So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.
The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being an ungrateful brat.
So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.
I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.
You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.
Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially awkward teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.
I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.
Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.
And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.
You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.
So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are incredibly stupid, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.
I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.
So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.
Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.
Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.
Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.
So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.
The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being an ungrateful brat.
So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.
I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.
You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.
Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially awkward teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.
I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.
Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.
And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.
You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.
So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are incredibly stupid, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.
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I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.
So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.
Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.
Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.
Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.
So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.
The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being an ungrateful brat.
So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.
I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.
You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.
Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially awkward teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.
I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.
Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.
And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.
You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.
So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are clueless, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.
I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.
So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.
Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.
Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.
Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.
So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.
The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being a brat.
So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.
I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Lik oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.
You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.
Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of inept and socially deprived teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course theyre going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.
I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.
Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.
And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.
You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.
So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are clueless, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit off, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.
I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tl;dr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this.
Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.
So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give away is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.
Also under the bus doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the bus means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.
Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.
Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.
So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.
The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being a brat.
So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.
I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.
You’re right. She had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.
Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of inept and socially deprived teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with Victorious’s cancelation.
I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Ratings were in the toilet the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. It just means they’re more organized. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show. So I wanted to get that out of the way.
Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D then you’d know I was talking about you.
And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.
You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like I said before, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.
I agree with Jason Lee And DeathbySymmetry with their comments.
But are they friends yet? I hope they become friends soon. <3
@Jason Lee
Get a fucking life. Stop coming on here constantly commenting you look a fucking idiot with no life. Who cares who got the show cancelled the show it over move the fuck on with your life. You look and sound pathetic. Stop responding to people who aren’t even talking to you. You seem like the kind of person who didn’t get enough attention from their parents as a child. Stop It! You’re annoying and pathetic. The fact that take time of your day to come here and attack people like Lenny D and Ariana fans really shows how pathetic you really are. You should really get some friends because this is really sad.
What kinda idiot will say that arsiana did the right thing?????And these fans were suppose to shut that hell up. Ari might’ve been upset but it was sooooooo ungentle thing to have a blame on vic. I mean what duh. That stupid bitch is just like a brainless women. Ari also made tweeter mistakes alot of times and make them feel offensed. She deserves to have a punishment. and what if vic done her solo tour??that doesn’t mean that she wants HER OWN SHOW to be canceled… sje was shocked about it… remember…. vic dorsn’t deserbe to be blamed about this whole thing,its ari tje asshole to be punished about not being gentle and nice to others. Why can’t she think about other’s feelings before to talk in THE Public. Vic did the sweet thing 4fans. Ari talks like a innocent girl who never betrayed her casts which she did hundred times.
PUBLIC!!!vic!!!
are they friends yet and have you heard that ariana didnt attend victorias 20th bday party
i think that she got invited she just didnt want to go. please become friends!
I’m pretty sure they will never make up. And the only reason Ariana cancelled on attending Victoria’s birthday is because she was going to see her god son for the VERY FIRST TIME.
Guys! First of all, of COURSE Ariana liked Victoria! They never said they didn’t like eachother! Don’t you see all those photos of them together and hugging eachother? They were the best of friends! But now, they are just pure enemies. Personally, I’m on Ariana’s team. That reason because Victoria cancelled her tour in Boca Raton just because that’s where Ariana grew up in! Also, Victoria decided not to do a group tour so that Ariana’s new show (Sam and Cat) could be sucessful. #TeamAriana
Oh please don’t tell me you’re Lenny D the II. You are so wrong on so many different levels.
Um i think they r both kind of being snappy about this haha sam and cat only started because of the other series ending. its clear that that is the reason because they started sam and cat to relive and keep using some favorite nick charaters. And i am on ariana side but victoria had a believable reason. Also they could havr had one mire season but everyone was kind of growing up and such and some people like to start new projects and grow.
Um… the people above… The network said that both Victoria and Ariana were wrong as to why Victorious got cancelled. And even though I love Ariana to death, I do think that her telling a fan her opinion as to why the show ended was wrong. So… Yeah… Victoria and Ariana had nothing AT ALL to do with the show being cancelled.
I think what Ariana did was wrong of her in MANY ways. And really @Lenny D? I know this post is alittle late, but when Ariana said “choose to do a solo tour” that’s kind of saying it was Victoria’s fault. No one went on a solo tour but her. And just by her being on a solo tour isn’t the reason why VICTORIOUS ended. Miranda Cosgrove went on a solo tour and iCarly didn’t end. And she was still filming iCarly. It was just about tme for VICTORIOUS to end. Not that I wanted it to, but still.
Th show had excellent ratings. It even ALMOST topped iCarly and Big Time Rush. Well actually it did top BTR but My point is.. Ariana should not have done that. She was so sly and secret as she and everybody else thought. She was basically calling Victoria out by… just not saing her name! I hope the girls make up beca use I’m really sad about this whole thing. ILOVE VICTORIA JUSTICE/ ARIANA
I don’t think that they will pure enemies. Eventually they will make up.
Plus the reason why she cancelled her concert in Boca Raton is because of scheduling conflicts. Plus she cancelled her tour as a whole.
I think ariana 100% was telling the truth but they will eventually make up
Okay you know what, I think that there’s a lot of good points being made here but no one has quite got it. By the way, excuse any typos, my keypad isn’t the best.
Here’s my conclusion and what I think:
Firstly, Victorious is a very popular show which was clearly shown in the 2013 KCA’s and Victorious won the favourite TV show. So obviously, people watch this show and like it otherwise it wouldn’t have won the category. So, it didn’t end because of poor ratings.
Anyways, what Ariana says IS quite direct IF you know which girl is going on tour (whihch I guess many Victorious fans knew). So this isn’t a matter of Ariana being discreet and non-direct. Also, what Ariana says does have valid points as they can’t do the show without the main, lead character. If Victoria is going on a tour then obviously there will be hiccups in the shooting and ther will be more problems. You say that solo tours don’t affect the filming but how do you know? Do you know each city she’ll be visitin and thee timings too? And even if you know that do you know the filming schedule of the show? How do you know that the 2 events don’t clash?
Anyways, this in’t something where Ariana is trowig Victoria under the bus. Because if Sam and Cat and the abrupt end of Victorious, obvously there are speculations and I think it’s pretty obvious that Ariana would have been getting a lot of inquiries about the end of Victorious and whether Sam and Cat ended the show. One can asume that Ariana would have ben getting fed up and you know, obviously when so many people are constantly stabbing at something you care about, after a certain limit you will be fed up and wanna set things straight.
And this may have been something that cause Ariana to clear things in a more direct way then she could have. You can’t say that she’s trying tomake herself look good a she isn’t PROMOTING Sam & Cat or anything. She is clearing things and stating facts and if that makes her look good then fine. It would be wrong if she was twisting things and manipulating events in order to make her look good. But since she is stating facts, you can’t say she is promoting herself. She can’t help it if it makes her show look good. She is just clearing the name of her show because it has been blamed wrongly.
Sure, if you wanna say that she could have been nicer about it then yeah, she could have. But you have to consider the fact that the kind of comments the viewers were making about Sam and Cat were too much and Ariana was gettig fed up and the impulse and spur of the moment caused her words to come out harsher then she probably meant. After tht, Victoria was just defending herself in the same way.
Finally, they have deleted their comments, they have obviously moved on, why can’t you guys?
no affense but it is tech not fair to fans i love victorius
Ok ariana is right but that doesn’t mean Victoria should be upset with it. I love both girls equally and it would be a nightmare if they never made up! Ariana and Victoria are best friends!!!! I love them to death and I would die if they aren’t friends any more. PLEASE JUST MAKE UP ALREADY!
Very big discussion here but you all missed one Point. You are Talking about who has the fault but noone considered that it doesnt matter because it is their carreer. If it was Victoria because of her Solo Tour than fine good for her. If it was Ariana because of the other show ok. It would be a usefull discussion if it was Nick´s fault because they wanted a new show with better Ratings like Victorious and Icarly had in the First Season. But now you are arguing about who you should blame but it really doesnt matter.
i do like ariana grande but not victoria that much but i will agree that ariana said it was victorias fault victorious ended but ariana only said that because she was tired of all the bull shit people were always blaming her jenette for the cancellation of victorious but cmon stop hating ariana yes she is more popular than victoria because she is a talented singer and beutiful we cant blame her and jenette yea the show is called victorious and it is really her show but ariana just happens to be more talented and more people love her so therfore she deserves her own show and more fame and by the way victoria is having a solo carrer and going on tour with big time rush so she shouldnt be bitching if she has a solo carrer and a tour coming up and by the way ariana is beutiful and flawless and sings way better than ugly victoria justice!
Are they still feuding? Hope not… Cause i love both of the girls…..
okay okay u all should calm ur balls down okay theres gonna be a season 4 and thats gonna include me in it
JKS BUT HERES A LETTER TO VICTORIOUS THE SHOW
DEAR VICTORIOUS CAST CREW
OR WHO EVER CANCELLED THE SHOW
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEASON 4 AND NO THIS IS NOT A 14 YEAR OLD BOY BUT A 8 YEAR OLD GIRL WOULD U PLEASE START UP SHOW AGAIN AND MAKE SEASON 4 AND PLEASE LET MY 14 YEAR OLD BROTHER IN IT HIS NAME IS CHRISTIAN ULBERG AND I LOVE VICTORIOUS
PS:I SMOKE CRACK