Victoria Justice & Ariana Grande Feud Over ‘Victorious’ Cancellation

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Ah, the things you see on Twitter. Victorious fans got an eyeful earlier this week when the show’s stars, Victoria Justice and Ariana Grande appeared to have a very public spat about the reasons for the hit Nickelodeon’s show early ending. The drama apparently started when a fan on Ask.Fm blamed Ariana‘s new show for Victorious’ cancellation. “Sam & Cat ruined Victorious,” they wrote.

Ariana responded swiftly, and clearly blamed the show’s star Victoria. “Sweetheart the only reason Victorious ended is because 1 girl didn’t want to do it,” she wrote. “She chose to do a solo tour instead of a cast tour. If we had done a cast tour Nickelodeon would have ordered another season of Victorious while Sam and Cat filmed simultaneously but she chose otherwise. I’m sick of this bs.”

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And Victoria was just as quick to respond to Ariana via Twitter. “Some people would throw some1 they consider a friend under the bus just 2 make themselves look good. #StopBeingAPhony #IfTheyOnlyKnew,” she shot back.

But the fight didn’t end there. “You just can’t hide from the truth,” Ariana tweeted.

Both Victoria and Ariana have deleted their tweets and messages, but not before fans and followers had time to witness the drama that went down. Will these two former “best friends” be able to patch things up? Time – and Twitter – will tell.

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  1. Indi

    Pffft, Who care’s the show was going to end and why was Victoria getting upset? It’s the truth she wanted to go on tour she shouldn’t get mad. Go ahead Ariana you tell her :P <3

    • JackFrost

      Only an idiot would be on Ariana’s side for this. Fact of the matter is she was being a bratty bitch. Her immaturity won’t get her far in life.

    • another person

      Maybe it is the truth but you dont put your friend in blast like that. That just goes to show that little miss muffet Ariana doesnt know how to handle media pressure. i bet if she were your partner in crime she blast you out first ….just sad ….in other words if Ariana has nothing nice to say she should keep it to herself ….unproffesional

    • Your all wrong

      Actually, ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG! It wasn’t Victoria’s fault nor was it Ariana’s. the show ended because the max number of episodes was reached. Which Victoria signed in 2009. Ariana could have just said the truth instead of blaming Victoria. I love both girls,but honestly ariana really should not have said that.

    • Your all wrong

      Agreed. That is the real reason. But the I think that the whole cast signed it.

    • Mia

      Why Wouldnt She Get Mad . Cleary Ariana Made Victoria Look Like The Bad Guy Here -.- Of Course she had to defend Her slef dummy !!

    • Eve

      This comment angers me because vic did nothing wrong, ari over stepped the mark, she acted like vic did something horrendus when at the end of the day ari would have done the same thing, the way ari responded to that comment was also very snotty and uncalled for, she could’ve ust said, vic wanted to do her own tour which is fair enough so nick didn’t order an other season, instead of making her friend look awful to make her seem better, i bet the girl that asked was only about 12 aswell, so ari being 19 should’ve rose above it and ignored it instead of being so nasty and immature, i love both girls but ari needs to stop acting so cute and innocent if this is what she’s capable of

    • ashley morrison

      Victorious DID NOT end because of Victoria. The show ended because it reached its episode limit. Dan Schneider even said this himself. Ariana has said that that interview was put out of context. Some people don’t know all the info and just say untrue things just to start drama.

    • ThisPerson

      Hey, just a question, if Victorias decision to go on a solo tour ended the show, does that mean that when her tour is over they will continue it or at least give it a proper ending? Also, if part of the reason why they canceled is because of the episode limit, it doesn’t make any sense because iCarly had over 100 episodes AND a series finale and Victorious doesn’t even get that? Other than that Ihave no idea why they would have cancelled such a fantastic show. The ratings were great, it won and was nominated for plenty of awards, and everyone loved it. Heck, it’s even the most watched show on Nick. Maybe they will continue it. And if they don’t, this lovable show will continue to be enjoyed by people of all ages!

    • Trust

      Hey, just a question, if Victorias decision to go on a solo tour ended the show, does that mean that when her tour is over they will continue it or at least give it a proper ending? Also, if part of the reason why they canceled is because of the episode limit, it doesn’t make any sense because iCarly had over 100 episodes AND a series finale and Victorious doesn’t even get that? Other than that Ihave no idea why they would have cancelled such a fantastic show. The ratings were great, it won and was nominated for plenty of awards, and everyone loved it. Heck, it’s even the most watched show on Nick. Maybe they will continue it. And if they don’t, this lovable show will continue to be enjoyed by people of all ages!

  2. JackFrost

    Wow, I always knew Ariana Grande was a bitch. But blaming the show’s cancelation on one girl? Thats a shitty move. Fluck you Grande, and your loser fanbase.

    • Nikki

      No, Ariana was just telling the truth. The show can’t be called ‘Victorious’ if Victoria can’t hide it. Ariana Grande isn’t a bitch, she’s just sick of people saying it’s her and Jennette’s fault for Victorious cancelation

  3. James

    Nikki you’re an idiot. Nobody blamed Jennet for the show ending. Also there is hardly any truth to this and seeing as how Ariana deleted the ask, thats an indication of someone who’s guilty. Fact of the matter is Victorious ended because it was loosing ratings. Derp!

    • Nikki

      How am I an Idiot for sticking up to my Idol? You want to see an Idiot o look inn the fucking mirror

    • uriel

      Actually james both ariana and victoria deleted their posts in twitter. read the whole article again!

    • Lexie

      Darling, It wasn’t loosing ratings. It was Nickelodeon’s most watched show!

    • Kaiul

      If you look at both the past and what has been happening recently, it’s pretty clear that Ariana was telling the truth.

      1. Ari has always gotten in trouble for sharing too much with her fans, she even used to leak music from her own album during livechats before she got in trouble for that. She likes to say “fans before authority.”

      2. Since the KCA’s, Victoria has not acknowledged the existence of Victorious or of any of the cast on Twitter besides her closest girlfriend on the cast, Daniella Monet and Avan Jogia, who she was friends with before Victorious. Not even when 3 or more would gather and post pics of the gathering, which has happened more than once. However, she still tweets about Zoey101. Things seem to be awkward between her and the rest of the cast, why would that be?

      3. Dan Schneider recently offered to make a Victorious finale for free and every star from the show tweeted him about it saying that they were in, except Victoria. Even more suspicious.

      4. Sam & Cat was written to run alongside Victorious. In episode 9, Cat even brings the cast to Sikowitz’s class in Hollywood Arts and there are body doubles for the entire Victorious cast. This proves the truth of what Ariana said about Sam & Cat being designed to film simultaneously with Victorious.

      5. Episode limit? WTF? Dan is a nice guy for sticking up for Victoria, but no network would put an arbitrary episode limit on a show that was making them money and building up their brand. That “episode limit” is probably the point where most shows reach saturation and their ratings start to decline, kid actors grow up/showrunners decide to move on. It’s more likely a rule of thumb that they use due to past experience. That definitely isn’t always the case though, iCarly had 96 episodes.

      That being said, because of that “limt” the execs probably did think Victorious would start to lose steam soon. It isn’t hard to imagine that Nickelodeon gave the cast an ultimatum of either going on a cast tour to promote her show or having it cancelled, and that Victoria chose to not do the cast tour.

      Neither Nickelodeon or Victoria would ever admit this because it makes them look like bad guys, but guess who would? Our girl Ari, who was not only pissed that the show was cancelled, but had been receiving vile hate for months blaming her and her new show that she was busting her ass on for its cancellation, and who knew the truth that Victoria chose not to save it. Ari apologized for spilling the beans, but she never took back what she said, like some in Victoria’s camp would have you believe, because it was true. She also never deleted her “You just can’t hide from the truth” tweet. And she deletes a lot of tweets.

      Both girls are sweethearts but sometimes even good people can get into disagreements, and neither Ariana nor Victoria lied or did anything wrong here. Ari was telling the truth, and Victoria never said otherwise, she was just upset that she had been “thrown under the bus.” Victoria made a hard choice doing what she felt was best for her career and Ari was defending herself from a lot of unfair bullying that she probably felt Victoria should have spoken up about.

  4. Jason Lee

    I never liked Ariana Grande. Now I have a reason to truly dislike her. Fuck this red headed annoying bitch/

  5. lenny D

    Ariana made her comment very specifically. We see their posts. These are their words. That is the only thing that won’t lie to you.- is what they posted on the Internet. Why would she make something like this up? It wouldn’t not make any sense. The giveaway is when Victoria says in her comment “Some people would throw Some1 they consider a friend UNDER THE BUS just to make themselves look good”. The key words there are under the bus. When someone expresses that they feel they have been thrown “under the bus”, that means that they are GUILTY of the action that they are being accused of. And Victoria’s poor excuse for that is that Ariana just wants to make herself look better. That may be true. It’s probably not because I personally feel that she was just clearing up a misunderstanding and felt a responsibility to avoid gossip on her page. She took action to correct a falsehood. She did the right thing speaking up and acting swiftly because this could have gone much further than neccessary. I miss Victorious but if the comments posted above were the entity of the entire cyber fight between these two ladies, I think it’s safe to say what I’m about to say. If Ariana, for a good reason, was so cleverly careful not to mention anyone by name, then I don’t understand why Victorious would even respond. Because when she responded, she made matters worse for herself in three ways. First, the arguements could have kept going and we would never know when this would end.- severing a friendship in the end result. Second, by even responding to Ariana’s comment, Victoria admitted that she was the subject of the conversation. Now who looks like the one asking for attention? O maybe everybody already connected the cancellation of the show to victoria. I dunno. But Victoria’s silly, poorly thought out action are like this example here:
    Fans
    v
    Victoria Justice.

    Fans: “Who took the cookie from the cookie jar?”
    Victoria: “Why’d you have to tell anyone that I took the cookie?”
    Fans: “I didn’t say you did. But at least now we know.”

    Victoria basically gave herself away instead of doing what I personally would have done so that no one would know it was me(if no one had already been certain), which is, “keep my mouth shut until it all goes away.” Ariana tried to hep her out by not snitchin, but she ended up snitchin on herself.

    • Jason Lee

      One word: You’re an idiot. Ok that’s three words but it’s true. YOu are a moron.

    • Jason Lee

      Lenny D, I read what you wrote, and not only do you come off as someone who is completely idiotic in their response and completely OFF in their logic, but you also come off as someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

      “Ariana made her comment very specifically. We see their posts. These are their words. That is the only thing that won’t lie to you.- is what they posted on the Internet. Why would she make something like this up?”

      She already told you WHY she would make something like this up. Its because she was getting sick of the hate she was getting and she had to cast blame on this somewhere else. She even APOLOGIZED for it because she knew what she said was wrong. Fact of the matter is One girl doesn’t have the power to cancel a show. Only a moron would think the way you do.

      “It wouldn’t not make any sense. The giveaway is when Victoria says in her comment “Some people would throw Some1 they consider a friend UNDER THE BUS just to make themselves look good”. The key words there are under the bus.”

      I don’t know if I should laugh at you for sounding so stupid or just feel sorry for this pitiful word analysis. Do you NOT know how defense works? People defend themselves from accusations NOT because they are guilty of it. But because they are NOT guilty of it. Or because they had a reason to do so. Because Ariana didn’t call her out by name if anything should be an indication of someone lying. Not the other way around.

      “When someone expresses that they feel they have been thrown “under the bus”, that means that they are GUILTY of the action that they are being accused of.”

      No it doesn’t. In fact most of the time it means they are NOT guilty of something and they are defending them selves from a malicious accusation. THIS is how defense works. NOT your pitiful explanation which makes zero sense.

      “And Victoria’s poor excuse for that is that Ariana just wants to make herself look better. That may be true. It’s probably not because I personally feel that she was just clearing up a misunderstanding and felt a responsibility to avoid gossip on her page. She took action to correct a falsehood.”

      How is it not true? If she didn’t want to make herself look better than she wouldn’t have done it in the first place. She’s a public figure. Meaning that getting hate from idiots online is part of her job. This also means GOSSIP comes with the territory especially if you are a celebrity. Fact is she doesn’t have any info on WHY a show ended and blamed it on one girl. Which if you think about it has NO way of ending the show. Because guess what? Solo Tours do NOT end TV shows. Bad ratings do.

      “She did the right thing speaking up and acting swiftly because this could have gone much further than neccessary.”

      Thats funny you say she did the right thing when ever her own CAST mates didn’t come to her aid. Even the network executives denied her this. Normally they just wouldn’t comment but the fact that they intervened should have told you something else. You have no idea what you are talking about.

      “I miss Victorious but if the comments posted above were the entity of the entire cyber fight between these two ladies, I think it’s safe to say what I’m about to say. If Ariana, for a good reason, was so cleverly careful not to mention anyone by name, then I don’t understand why Victorious would even respond.”

      Because it was CLEARLY about here you idiot. Just because she didnt MENTION her doesn’t make it less devious or wrong. Vic didn’t mention Ariana’s name in her tweet. I can use your logic on you. How do YOU know it was about Ariana? Your lack of logic is pretty bad here. And you really have no idea what you are talking about.

      “Because when she responded, she made matters worse for herself in three ways. First, the arguements could have kept going and we would never know when this would end.- severing a friendship in the end result.”

      What? No really? What? What the heck are you talking about? How did this make things worse for her? Almost everyone, aside from Ariana’s mentally retarded fanbase was on Vic’s side. Nobody came to Ariana’s aid except for her idiotic boyfriend who has little to no pull. The executives on Victorious even came to Victoria’s aid and pulled out their magic PR fixing abilites on VIC’s end. Also the only reason this friendship was severed was because of what ARIANA did. Not because of what VIC did. Ariana still follows Victoria justice on twitter. Not the other way around. So I don’t see what your logic is saying here.

      “Second, by even responding to Ariana’s comment, Victoria admitted that she was the subject of the conversation.”
      Of couse she was the subject of the conversation. She was only girl who went on a solo tour. Who else would the conversation be about? Any idiot who follows this show KNOWS that she was the only girl who went on a solo tour. So ARIANA gave her away with that. You are completely clueless and incredibly stupid.

      “Victoria basically gave herself away instead of doing what I personally would have done so that no one would know it was me(if no one had already been certain), which is, “keep my mouth shut until it all goes away.” Ariana tried to hep her out by not snitchin, but she ended up snitchin on herself.”

      But it was already about her. She gave MASSIVE hints as to who it was about and people could already connect it. She said ONE GIRL went on a solo tour. Only ONE GIRL from the cast went on a solo tour that year. It was Victoria Justice. What Ariana did was place blame on ONE girl which was wrong. What you are saying is completely illogical because people already knew. So of course she was going to defend herself. Ariana pretty much told everyone what happened. Why wouldn’t vic defend herself? If I gave people hints that you were a murderer and a rapist I think you would want to defend YOURSELF right?

      Please educate yourself on this matter because you sound incredibly ignorant.

    • Lexie

      i agree with you however everyone knew victoria was going on a solo tour so basically ariana was directing it to victoria without her even responding or confirming the accuracy.

    • anonymous

      Well 2 be honest Victoria done da right thing by answering cuz lets put it dis way yh, sum1 is chatting shit about u, r u jst gonna sit there and read I think npt, cuz judging by the way ur doing it for sum1else den its a little obvious u would do the same, im not sayon Arianas wrong but she should hav not sed anything offensive and could’ve jst made it clear it wernt her bit blaming Victoria was jst a bitch move n lastly, Victoria chooses wat she wants 2 do n wat she dnt, well after all it is her career n her life so she gets 2 live it the way she wants 2, n also its a little obvious Ariana was talkin about her so fdwr is no point in beating around the bush so she might aswell make it c

    • Anonymous

      U’r wrong actually.Its obvious to every one that ariana was reffering to vic. She’s the star of the show remember?I love both girls but u have to admit that ariana made a wrong move in passing the blame to victoria.Every one knows it’s victoria going on a tour so ariana wasn’t being the least bit subtle.She openly called victoria out and vic had to defend herself.It was ari’s fan page afterall.She could have just easily ignored the question.The whole thing is just sad cause it would be devastating to see such good friends and co-stars part ways with harsh words.

    • yesenia

      Dude that’s a horrible example
      M sure people knew that victora was goin on a solo tour so without even sayin her name fans would kno it was her and she was kinda defendin herself
      The fight all started cuz of the fans talkin shit and her defendin herself aswell so y not b a fan n stop tlkin shit be a lil more grown up about it

    • anon

      I think people need to take into account the fact that Victoria didn’t really point the finger at herself, it was pretty obvious that ariana was talking about her and anyone who thinks that people wouldn’t have jumped to conclusions and assumed it was her is kidding themselves. for all anyone knows the press might’ve been after her the minute ariana posted that. also, I read somewhere that Victoria and ariana don’t get on that well anyway. and just because she said under the bus doesn’t mean anything, it was just some random thing she tweeted when she was mad with ariana. I doubt she was thinking that much about it, she just wanted to dig at ariana. plus, I feel like a lot of people here are a little predudiced in arianas favour. personally, I like her the best of the two, im just trying to see this in an unbiased way. just giving my opinion, don’t mean any hate towards anyone and I hope they’ll make up soon.

    • Hailey

      Couldn’t of agree more.

    • Dory

      The thing is, is everyone forgetting how Miranda Cosgrove went on tour when iCarly was on? Victoria could’ve still done Victorious if ashe really wanted to..

    • Eve

      Not agreed because the comment from ari was immature and uncalled for, all she really needed to say was, ‘vic wanted to do her own tour so nick didn’t film more victorious, which i fair enough, good luck to victoria and the rest of the cast’, or along those lines, she did not need to made vic look like a bad guy or comment in the snotty manner she did, i love both girls but ari over stepped the mark

    • Chloe

      That is so fuckin stupid. Just cuz she say ‘under the bus’ doesn’t mean that it’s true, here take a look at this she blamed Victoria Justice for ending victorious, now that’s a lie & I have multiple proof. #1 link to m.mtv.com Victoria said that she was shocked and didn’t want victorious to end, if she decided to do a solo tour she would’ve known & also, Ariana SAID HERSELF, that no one wanted the show to end, & that everyone was disappointed, if Victoria never wanted victorious to end why would she be the one to end it herself > link to m.mtv.com still don’t believe me? Well there’s no reason for Victoria to cancel her OWN Show; she said it herself that she wanted to do more episode & she said on twitter that she would’ve loved to do a proper ending also nickelodeon & Dan confirmed that it wasn’t becuz of the tour, now your probably wondering, if Victoria DIDNT end the show who did? And the answer to that Is NO ONE. All of them were sad & loved victorious. It ended as Dan said clearly becuz nickelodeon decided to end it, weather it was about the ratings or ep limit no one really knows. But the point here is that Ariana blamed Victoria. And that’s what pissed me off, becuz it’s more than obvious that she loved victorious & wouldn’t of cancelled her own show, was it fair for ppl to blame Ariana for that? No. But that is absolutely no reason for Ariana to make everyone hate Victoria,. Now, why did Ariana say it if It wasn’t true? Well that’s an answer I would like to know too, but I have a strong feeling that becuz she was getting some hate on her ask.fm about Sam & cat she probably got mad & lied about Victoria ending it, I am definitely mad at Ariana for doing that becuz she had no right to blame Victoria for something like that, but Ariana apoligized, does that automatically mean she’s a good person now? No. Definitely not. There are kids on twitter believe it or not, and they don’t understand all this, and they look up to Ariana, well now they hate Victoria becuz as all of u should know u can’t take back what u say on the Internet, it’s on there. Forever. And guess what guys? Look at all these Victoria hate pages now.. link to m.facebook.com. Not only that, but Ariana blamed Victoria AGAIN, a few days ago she was interviews and said that she was ‘bullied’ oh look here, more hate towards Victoria, while she changed it up right after, people now believe that Victoria bullied Ariana, did she? No. She DIDNT. Ariana changed everything AGAIN & apologized. link to starpulse.com. not only did she blame Victoria once but she blamed her twice. Meaning twice more hate for Victoria. These are all gonna be on the Internet forever. Everybody makes mistakes but not everyone makes them twice. Not only this but she’s changing, her fame is changing her, she used to be all sweet and loving & caring but no, all she does is for fame. She is way too overrated, she got famous the easy way, and guess what? Victoria started from the bottom, no rich stage mom, no rich parents, no actresses/actor family, she started from doing commercials, she worked her butt off to get where she is now, she had her own tv show when she was 12 working all seasons just like Ariana, but no Ariana’s more ‘talented’ she needs more attention. Victoria WORKED FOR HER FAME. Every hour, min, sec. Everyday working, but all of a sudden Ariana gets double more attention then victoria? Tbh Ariana can’t do anything but sing, that’s all she does, Victoria has lots and lots of movies, & acting experience, Ariana isn’t a good actress she just uses a fake voice and acts like a 5 year old & honestly it gets so annoying. She can’t do anything else. Victoria’s been doing different characters and movies. Ok so Ariana can sing. What else can she do? Pft nothing. She acts like she’s some kind of BIG HIT. Like showing her ass & thigh gap, do u know how many more kids are gonna show their ass cuz of that?, she tweets things then automatically changes it once she sees hate. Many ppl say ‘Victoria doesn’t like Ariana’, ‘ why aren’t Ariana & Victoria friends?’ Well let me answer that question,at first Victoria liked Ariana, here’s a video proofing that >link to m.youtube.com really, everyone who meets Ariana says she’s stuck up, she’s selfish, rude & only ppl who look at her pics & from the Internet like her, why? Becuz she only looks nice, & acts. That’s all she does. There are more reasons but it’s gonna be way too long to write. ;P

  6. Listen guys, victori juustice is my idol!!!!! and i dont think its right for u guys to send hate to victoria!! this tour wouldnt have interferred with victorious anyway!! its no wonder ariana grande wasnt the star of victorious u know why? shes not a star in any circumstance! Stop being an idiot ariana u suck!!!!!! And Go victoria for being the best romodel ever i have NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING against u xx

    • Noah

      Obviously you’re an idiot if you thin Victorious being on tour wouldn’t effect the show u.u Julie, stop being a fan girl it’s Victorious fault 100% Ariana was telling the truth

    • Jason Lee

      @Noah The only idiot here is you for calling her VICTORIOUS when her name is VICTORIA you dumb ass. Second no. Solo tours do NOT end shows. Bad ratings do. And Victorious has been in a ratings slump for a while now.

    • Jason Lee

      You still don’t get it do you Lenny D? Alright try this again.

      “First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place?”

      It’s called a DEFENSE for a reason. You DEFND yourself against someone who is making a malicious accusation against you. Its natural for anyone to defend them selves against something that is frankly WRONG. Any idiot would tell you that one girl going on a solo tour wouldn’t cancel a show. So of course Vic would defend herself.

      “Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something.”

      In this case you do especially if your own FRIEND is the one making a malicious accusation. Why wouldn’t she defend herself against something like this? What you say again is senseless and stupid.

      “You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly.”

      Of course she was talking about her you idiot. She singled her out by action so of course she was talking about her. Who else would she talk about?

      “Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with.”

      But she didn’t say ONE girl she said, “One girl who went on a solo tour.” Who went on a solo tour that year? Was it Liz Gillies? Nope. Avan Jogia? Haven’t heard anything from him. Daniella Monet? She’s not big enough for a solo tour. There was only ONE person on that show who was big enough to go on a solo tour and she did. Who else went on a solo tour that year that summer? Please tell me because I’m dying to know.

      “In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately.”

      Why should she? Ariana already made this a public matter when she posted that. Why should Victoria keep her mouth shut when she was practically called out by name? If someone was calling me out by name I would respond back.

      “It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about.”

      And she did. Because she was called out by name. Or by the indication. Again One girl who WENT on a solo tour. Who went on a solo tour that year? She did.

      “She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.””

      She said “one girl who went on a solo tour.” Get it right you blithering idiot.

      “Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly.”

      No, no one would agree on this with you because of how asinine you sound. This whole thing started because Ariana decided to be a bitch and place ALL the blame on ONE friend. That is why people are upset with her. Because of her actions. Anyone who isn’t a complete moron would know that a solo tour wouldn’t cancel the show. If they wanted to find a way to keep the show going, they would have done so and a solo tour wouldn’t make much difference since Vic could have filmed the show after the tour ended. So no, no one would agree with you on this because its not plausible. Rumors start. Thats what they do. Ariana could have said nothing and none of this would have happened. But blaming your friend on something she didnt do?

      “We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end.”

      Because it was HER FAULT. SHE started this whole thing by posting this. She could have said nothing and just ride out the hate she was getting, and she still would have been friends with vic and that would be it. But no she decided to put the blame on ONE girl and common sense SHOULD tell you “Hey, one girl is responsible for the end of an entire show? That makes no sense!”

      “Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.”

      It WAS about her you invalid. She singled her out by name. She said “one girl who went on tour this year.” who else went on a tour that year? If I said “There’s a stupid girl posting on this thread that goes by the initials L.D” I think people would know who I am talking about.

      DO the world a favor and educate yourself.

    • Carlos

      so its not fine to hate on victoria but its cool for you to hate on ariana? you are a crazy hypocrite!

  7. alyssa

    i think Victoria is right because Ariana had no right to blame her for the cancellation. even she wanted the fans to stop blaming her i dont think she should have dumped the blame on a close friend. Plus, if it did end because of the tour, wouldnt you think they would have at least had a proper series finale? Thats why i think its the network that decided to end the series. I love you Ariana G and Victoria J! Hope you become friends again! : D

    • Anon

      Even though its obvious ariana was PROBABLY talking about victoria she never mentioned her name at all so that excuse is irrelevant and would you like it if your ‘friend’ did something unfair but you got blamed for it and they just watched you get blamed as well. That is not being a friend if they let you take the blame for something you didn’t grow up and confess. And if the show had low ratings why was the victorious show trending on twitter 3 times that day and why did it win the kid choice awards. AND STOP CALLING PEOPLE IDIOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THERE OWN OPINIONS. And the fact that victoria called her a phoney and all and ariana just kept it cool and didnt fight back and i dont think you can go on tours and be on set at the same time. And any of the girls could’ve decided to go on tour not just Victoria. And if it was arianas fault she woulnt have such a good relationship with the cast because they would be a little mad that they no longer have jobs because of you

    • Alyssa

      Chloe, I agree with you completely!!!! You are absolutely correct!

  8. alyssa

    I think they thought they were going to make another season but since the network wanted them to stop at 60, with all the episodes already made, they didn’t have time to make a proper series finale. I dont think going on a solo tour had anything to do with the shows ending. I love you Victoria And Ariana. Please just make up and Be Friends Again! :(

    • Not SAYING

      I agree 100%. It reached 60 episodes so they ended it few shows have had more than 60 episodes and the way rumors are going they will have 15 or 16 more episodes in the fall(November) BUT thats a RUMOR so dont take my word. And @Alyssa you tell it is neither of thems fault it was the networks fault they cancled not Victoria or Ariana cancled so Victoria and Ariana just be friend again please :(

  9. alyssa

    And finally, Ienny D, i dont think by Victoria saying Ariana threw her under the bus meant that she did it. She’s just saying instead of Ariana handling it herself, she sacrificed Victoria so she would LOOK like shes the reason why it ended. All victoria said was that now she made everyone look like she caused the cancellation.Even though she didnt. Your Cookie Jar bit made no sense to me because she didnt say she did it in any way.

    • Lenny D

      First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place? Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something. You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly. Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with. In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately. It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about. She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.” Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly. We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end. Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.
      I miss my favorite show on T.V that inspired me everyday to follow my dreams.

    • Jason Lee

      Oi vey. You still don’t get it do you Lenny D? Alright try this again.

      “First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place?”

      It’s called a DEFENSE for a reason. You DEFND yourself against someone who is making a malicious accusation against you. Its natural for anyone to defend them selves against something that is frankly WRONG. Any idiot would tell you that one girl going on a solo tour wouldn’t cancel a show. So of course Vic would defend herself.

      “Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something.”

      In this case you do especially if your own FRIEND is the one making a malicious accusation. Why wouldn’t she defend herself against something like this? What you say again is senseless and stupid.

      “You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly.”

      Of course she was talking about her you idiot. She singled her out by action so of course she was talking about her. Who else would she talk about?

      “Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with.”

      But she didn’t say ONE girl she said, “One girl who went on a solo tour.” Who went on a solo tour that year? Was it Liz Gillies? Nope. Avan Jogia? Haven’t heard anything from him. Daniella Monet? She’s not big enough for a solo tour. There was only ONE person on that show who was big enough to go on a solo tour and she did. Who else went on a solo tour that year that summer? Please tell me because I’m dying to know.

      “In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately.”

      Why should she? Ariana already made this a public matter when she posted that. Why should Victoria keep her mouth shut when she was practically called out by name? If someone was calling me out by name I would respond back.

      “It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about.”

      And she did. Because she was called out by name. Or by the indication. Again One girl who WENT on a solo tour. Who went on a solo tour that year? She did.

      “She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.””

      She said “one girl who went on a solo tour.” Get it right you blithering idiot.

      “Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly.”

      No, no one would agree on this with you because of how asinine you sound. This whole thing started because Ariana decided to be a bitch and place ALL the blame on ONE friend. That is why people are upset with her. Because of her actions. Anyone who isn’t a complete moron would know that a solo tour wouldn’t cancel the show. If they wanted to find a way to keep the show going, they would have done so and a solo tour wouldn’t make much difference since Vic could have filmed the show after the tour ended. So no, no one would agree with you on this because its not plausible. Rumors start. Thats what they do. Ariana could have said nothing and none of this would have happened. But blaming your friend on something she didnt do?

      “We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end.”

      Because it was HER FAULT. SHE started this whole thing by posting this. She could have said nothing and just ride out the hate she was getting, and she still would have been friends with vic and that would be it. But no she decided to put the blame on ONE girl and common sense SHOULD tell you “Hey, one girl is responsible for the end of an entire show? That makes no sense!”

      “Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.”

      It WAS about her you invalid. She singled her out by name. She said “one girl who went on tour this year.” who else went on a tour that year? If I said “There’s a stupid girl posting on this thread that goes by the initials L.D” I think people would know who I am talking about.

      DO the world a favor and educate yourself.

  10. alyssa

    I agree with James! But i dont think ariana made the show cancelled either. it was all the networks fault

  11. Jordan

    Guys tours don’t cancel shows and if u didn’t kno Ariana apologized they are 20 years old they probably already talked it out and we all kno why it got cancelled. Because nickelodeon is just stupid and wants to put on dumb shows and Victorious isn’t in that category. I love Ari and Vic but this whole thing is stupid let them handle and let’s not point blame at anyone

  12. alyssa

    I agree with you Lenny D. Victoria shouldnt have responded. But also I think that the reason Victoria defended herself is because she thought if she didnt, everyone would now start accusing her and hating her. Like Lance Armstrong. When the people sued him or something for using steroids, he didnt respond. So now everyone was mad and was really accusing him for using the drugs. Thats why I kinda agree with why Victoria did just that. But i think that she should have said it in another way. Also in Ariana’s statement, she did say onegirl. Though everyone already knew that Victoria was the one she was talking about,( because she the one going on tour), i dont think she pointed the finger on herself. i think that she knew that Ariana was talking her, and that everyone who saw the tweet knew that she was talking about her, so she had to defend herself in some way because who else would she be talking about. that is why i think in a good way it was great for victoria to defend herself. And thank you for replying to me. I love VICTORiOUS! I’ll MISS you!

    • Alyssa

      Victoria should have responded cause what Ariana did was stupid false and selfish. She should apologize to Victoria for blatantly lying. Because the fight isn’t eve between Ariana and Victoria, it’s between Ariana and Dan. Dan said no one caused the cancellation of Victorious but Ariana said Victoria did so either she was lying or Dan did.

  13. Gerald

    I don’t know about you guys but I personally believed that everything has a beginning & an end. No one should be blamed for that.
    By the way, Victoria did the right thing by defending herself. Ariana should not have blamed her for the cancellation of Victorious.
    If Victoria wanted to go on tour, it’s her choice to make, no one else can make that choice for her.

  14. alyssa

    Plus if her tour starts on June 19, she would have 5 good months to film new episodes. Then when she finishes her tour, she can now film another season after that. So it was TOTALLY the networks fault. So hate the NETWORK.

    • Alyssa

      And plus, how is it so ironic that when SAM&CAT comes, Victorious is suddenly cancelled? I find that very weird. They cancelled Victorious because they knew that if they were running at the same time, they’d be competing shows and that Victorious would lose ratings. That’s why they cancelled it.

  15. Jason Lee

    Lenny D you still don’t get it do you? Alright try this again.

    “First off, I’m flattered you responded to me directly, I agree with most of what you said and I see where ur comin from. But, why respond in the first place?”

    It’s called a DEFENSE for a reason. You DEFND yourself against someone who is making a malicious accusation against you. Its natural for anyone to defend them selves against something that is frankly WRONG. Any idiot would tell you that one girl going on a solo tour wouldn’t cancel a show. So of course Vic would defend herself.

    “Unless Victoria felt like she had to defend herself by saying she’s being thrown under the bus. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything to prove something.”

    In this case you do especially if your own FRIEND is the one making a malicious accusation. Why wouldn’t she defend herself against something like this? What you say again is senseless and stupid.

    “You just have to act. And Victoria’s actions made it clear that she knew that Ariana was talking about her, as if she was talking to her directly.”

    Of course she was talking about her you idiot. She singled her out by action so of course she was talking about her. Who else would she talk about?

    “Even when the person Ariana mentioned remained anonymous when she used the pronoun “1 girl.” Ariana was careful and smart enough not to say “oh, It’s all Victoria fault. Everybody just blame victoria.” That was what I had a problem with. It wasn’t so much that Ariana was pointing fingers(At no one in particular), but the fact that Victoria inadvertently turned the finger towards herself when no one had to know it was her to begin with.”

    But she didn’t say ONE girl she said, “One girl who went on a solo tour.” Who went on a solo tour that year? Was it Liz Gillies? Nope. Avan Jogia? Haven’t heard anything from him. Daniella Monet? She’s not big enough for a solo tour. There was only ONE person on that show who was big enough to go on a solo tour and she did. Who else went on a solo tour that year that summer? Please tell me because I’m dying to know.

    “In other words, don’t post anything. Or better yet, don’t jump into on coming traffic! Just let rush hour settle down a little bit. Let Ariana say what she has to say and talk to her about it face to face, privately.”

    Why should she? Ariana already made this a public matter when she posted that. Why should Victoria keep her mouth shut when she was practically called out by name? If someone was calling me out by name I would respond back.

    “It’s not like victoria can say “I’m not gonna let anybody talk shit about me”. Unless she knows she’s the person that’s being talked about.”

    And she did. Because she was called out by name. Or by the indication. Again One girl who WENT on a solo tour. Who went on a solo tour that year? She did.

    “She should have been like “wait a minute, ur not gonna pin this all on me. More than one party had to do with this mess.”- because as I recall, Ariana straight up Said “one girl.””

    She said “one girl who went on a solo tour.” Get it right you blithering idiot.

    “Maybe Ariana should have just said something like “we all miss the show”, or just ignore the comment that lead up to the rants because it wasn’t like it was a question. And even if it was, she’s allowed to plead the fifth. I think there is one point we can agree on. This all started because someone on the internet was spreading false information like people often do unfortunately, whether knowingly or unknowingly.”

    No, no one would agree on this with you because of how asinine you sound. This whole thing started because Ariana decided to be a bitch and place ALL the blame on ONE friend. That is why people are upset with her. Because of her actions. Anyone who isn’t a complete moron would know that a solo tour wouldn’t cancel the show. If they wanted to find a way to keep the show going, they would have done so and a solo tour wouldn’t make much difference since Vic could have filmed the show after the tour ended. So no, no one would agree with you on this because its not plausible. Rumors start. Thats what they do. Ariana could have said nothing and none of this would have happened. But blaming your friend on something she didnt do?

    “We should all be careful how we say things and how it comes across when something is said. Internet be some crazy %ish .Ariana tried to clean up, but ended up making a bigger mess in the end.”

    Because it was HER FAULT. SHE started this whole thing by posting this. She could have said nothing and just ride out the hate she was getting, and she still would have been friends with vic and that would be it. But no she decided to put the blame on ONE girl and common sense SHOULD tell you “Hey, one girl is responsible for the end of an entire show? That makes no sense!”

    “Lastly, I agree that it’s not fair to shoulder such a huge blame on one person. Like you said ” It was all the networks fault.” But you don’t have to make everything about you.”

    It WAS about her you invalid. She singled her out by name. She said “one girl who went on tour this year.” who else went on a tour that year? If I said “There’s a stupid girl posting on this thread that goes by the initials L.D” I think people would know who I am talking about.

    DO the world a favor and educate yourself.

  16. So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are mentally retarded, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.

    I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.

    So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.

    Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.

    Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.

    Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.

    So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.

    The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being a bitch.

    So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.

    I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Lik oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.

    You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.

    Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially retarded teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course theyre going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.

    I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.

    Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.

    And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.

    You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.

  17. So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are mentally retarded, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.

    I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.

    So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.

    Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.

    Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.

    Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.

    So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.

    The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being an ungrateful brat.

    So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.

    I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.

    You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.

    Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially awkward teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.

    I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.

    Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.

    And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.

    You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.

  18. So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are incredibly stupid, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.

    I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.

    So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.

    Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.

    Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.

    Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.

    So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.

    The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being an ungrateful brat.

    So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.

    I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.

    You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.

    Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially awkward teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.

    I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.

    Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.

    And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.

    You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.

  19. dearhbysymmetry

    So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are incredibly stupid, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.

    I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.

    So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.

    Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.

    Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.

    Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.

    So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.

    The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being an ungrateful brat.

    So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.

    I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.

    You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.

    Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of mentally inept and socially awkward teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.

    I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.

    Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication. If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.

    And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.

    You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.

  20. DeathBysymmetry

    So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are clueless, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit crass, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.

    I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tldr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this. Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.

    So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give awa is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.

    Also under the buss doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the buss means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.

    Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.

    Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.

    So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.

    The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being a brat.

    So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.

    I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Lik oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.

    You’re darn right she had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.

    Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of inept and socially deprived teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course theyre going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with victorious’s cancelation.

    I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Both ratings were in the crapper the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show, but bad management from dan’s end. So I wanted to get that out of the way.

    Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication.  If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D (thanks Jason lee for that help) then you’d know I was talking about you.

    And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.

    You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like the person above me said, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.

  21. Jason Lee

    So after reading these posts, I have to a few conclusions. One, Ariana fans are clueless, and two, Lenny D really likes to cover up her stupidity with massive pseudo intellectualism. And boy does it show. So Lenny d, if you are reading this now allow me to respond to your two posts. And if this comes off sounding a bit off, I apologize. I’m typing this on my iPhone.

    I don’t know what planet you are living on, but here in earth, we tend to believe things based off of common sense and the evidence that we are provided with. Obviously in your land you believe that defense is something that guilty people would do, however I, as someone who actually uses common sense, is here to tell you how mentally inept you sound with your post. I won’t address your contradicting nature, that’s you being the mentally regressed individual you are, but I will address the points you have made as a whole. So guys, if you aren’t down with reading tl;dr posts where I own idiot teenagers, then don’t read this.

    Lenny d, this is for you. First off you ask why Ariana would be making all of this up. First off you claim Ariana isn’t making of this up. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue here is placing blame On a girl that had nothing to do with the shows cancelation in the first place. Like someone else here stated, any idiot knows that solo tours do not cancel shows. Bad ratings do. And victorious for the last few seasons has been in a ratings slump. So people aren’t questioning her making it up as they are blaming Ariana for her bad decisions of putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. She was just as uninformed as Victoria was when it came to the shows demise.

    So again people are aware that Ariana isn’t making this up. She’s putting the blame on a place where it doesn’t belong. Two different things. You then say that the give away is when Victoria commented. You are wrong. The give away is when Ariana called her out by name. Well not by name but heavily hinted when she said “one girl who went on tour” she didn’t say one girl. She said “one girl who went on tour.” If you are going to quote someone, at least have the decency to do so correctly.

    Also under the bus doesn’t mean they are guilty of their actions. Under the bus means the opposite actually. That they are not guilty of said action and that it means a friend back stabbed them by placing the blame on them when they had nothing to do with the shows demise. That’s what under the bus means oh not so savvy wordsmith. And as far as “poor Victoria’s” excuse goes, that’s exactly why Ariana did so. To make herself look better. Otherwise she would have just said nothing but instead decided to put blame where it doesn’t belong. And I will address this later on the posts. Ariana is a public figure. She’s someone who is in the business where almost aspect of her life is made public. So she won’t be able to avoid gossip on her page. So that excuse you made for her was just weak.

    Also I don’t know how anyone can say what she did was considered right. Even if What she said was true (which it’s not) then how is what she said right when it just came off as petty and spiteful? Even the way she worded it was out of petty spite. She’s a public figure. If she’s tired of the bs, then she shouldn’t be in the public light in the first place. But what really makes me laugh is how you claim she was clever in her post. First off if she was clever then she wouldn’t have answered the question in the first place. (Because the hate she got for the most part tends to go away after a while.) she would have stated something else. And she wouldn’t have called out the only girl who went on tour. I think that was the thing that gave Victoria away. So not clever at all. And the fact that she deleted the ask should say volumes about who is speaking the truth.

    Second a friendship did sever. Not because of what Victoria did. But because of what Ariana did. If she kept her mouth shut then none if this would have happened in the first place. And I don’t see how anyone can put blame on Victoria justice who was defending her self against something that was quite a serious allegation. The reason why Victoria responded want because Ariana was clever, it was because she wasn’t clever and people put two and two together. So yeah Vic heard and decided to say call her former friend out. Rightfully so might I add.

    So people already knew she was the topic of the convo when she mentioned her going on tour because I don’t know who else went on a huge solo tour that year. As far as who’s asking for attention? It wasn’t Victoria if she was defending herself. Ariana put her in that position when she called her out by name pretty much. So your little analogy doesn’t fit your explanation.

    The only person who gave Victoria away was Ariana. Who stated “one girl who went on tour.” Anyone in the victorious fandom knows who went on tour. So yeah Ariana didn’t snitch per say. She put on the blame on someone who didn’t deserve it. That’s not snitching. That’s being a brat.

    So that is a response to your first post. Lets get to your second.

    I guess in your world, Lenny d, it’s typical to not say anything when being accused of a serious allegation. But most people tend to defend themselves, especially when they are blamed for stuff that is out of their control. Like oh I don’t know, sole blame for the end of a show? That’s kind of a big deal. So yeah she responded because she was upset that her friend did something wrong to her and place blame on her for things that were out of her control for the most part.

    You’re right. She had to respond because she wasn’t going to let her friend place all the heat on her when in reality the demise of the show was due to just bad ratings and poor management. The only reason Ariana blamed Victoria (not victorious. I don’t know why you are calling her that) is because it was easier to place blame on her rather than blame her boss Dan Schneider.

    Because yes she did went on tour and yes that would look like the reason that victorious was canned. And it just so happens that ariana’s fanbase consists of inept and socially deprived teenagers who will believe anything she says,of course they’re going to take her word for it. But if you ask anyone with an iota of common sense you’d seen that her solo tour had nothing to do with Victorious’s cancelation.

    I said before i would explain why, and i am going to do so now. First her tour was in the summer. Victorious is filmed after the summer. So she could have filmed the show after her tour and not have any conflict at all with a filming schedule. Second, the fact that she went on tour if anything was to promote victorious and get people to watch it. She sang songs from the show, she advertised the show and encouraged people to watch said show. So how can she be responsible for something that she was promoting the longevity or? That makes no sense on Ariana’s end and it makes no sense on yours. Next are you aware of the ratings slump that had occurred due to Dan’s mismanagement of both of his shows? Ratings were in the toilet the second he decided to focus on other characters rather than the main character. Oh yes, people don’t like it when the sole purpose of watching said show has taken a back seat for the shows less interesting supporting characters. And cat valentine wasn’t big enough for main parts. Just because Ariana has more followers doesn’t mean she has more fans. It just means they’re more organized. So because of bad management and just completely ignoring what the fans want to see, the show took a nose dive in ratings and pretty much canned its self. That was the reason the show ended. Not solo tours that aren’t connected to the demise of a show and not one girl, who if anything did everything in her power to promote said show. So I wanted to get that out of the way.

    Second the girl who made Victoria a target was Ariana herself. You can’t possibly tell me that just because she didn’t mention her name, she wasn’t talking bout Victoria right? She pretty much called her out by saying “one girl on tour” so no she didn’t say “one girl” she said “one girl on tour” and like I said before, she was the only girl that went on tour. So she was pointing the finger at someone and she made it clear who she was posting it at. And that was the only reason Victoria posted something. Because Ariana called her out by indication.  If I were to talk about you and say on my tumblr, “there’s an incredibly stupid and illogical girl on a this link talking about something she knows nothing about, and she goes by the initials L.D then you’d know I was talking about you.

    And why should ariana talk to her privately when it became public in the first place due to Ariana’s stupid decision? Which even she herself agreed as stupid? What you recall L.D is completely inaccurate on almost every end. In fact I think the one real thing people can agree on is that you have no idea what you are talking about. This thing didn’t star because of what people said. This thing started because of Ariana’s stupid decision. It only became bout Victoria because Ariana made it about her.

    You’re completely off bout everything here. One hundred percent off bout everything you stated. So like I said before, educate yourself in the manner before you post. Otherwise you’ll just get owned by people like me.

  22. alyssa

    I agree with Jason Lee And DeathbySymmetry with their comments.

  23. alyssa

    But are they friends yet? I hope they become friends soon. <3

  24. Lea

    @Jason Lee
    Get a fucking life. Stop coming on here constantly commenting you look a fucking idiot with no life. Who cares who got the show cancelled the show it over move the fuck on with your life. You look and sound pathetic. Stop responding to people who aren’t even talking to you. You seem like the kind of person who didn’t get enough attention from their parents as a child. Stop It! You’re annoying and pathetic. The fact that take time of your day to come here and attack people like Lenny D and Ariana fans really shows how pathetic you really are. You should really get some friends because this is really sad.

  25. What kinda idiot will say that arsiana did the right thing?????And these fans were suppose to shut that hell up. Ari might’ve been upset but it was sooooooo ungentle thing to have a blame on vic. I mean what duh. That stupid bitch is just like a brainless women. Ari also made tweeter mistakes alot of times and make them feel offensed. She deserves to have a punishment. and what if vic done her solo tour??that doesn’t mean that she wants HER OWN SHOW to be canceled… sje was shocked about it… remember…. vic dorsn’t deserbe to be blamed about this whole thing,its ari tje asshole to be punished about not being gentle and nice to others. Why can’t she think about other’s feelings before to talk in THE Public. Vic did the sweet thing 4fans. Ari talks like a innocent girl who never betrayed her casts which she did hundred times.
    PUBLIC!!!vic!!!

  26. alyssa

    are they friends yet and have you heard that ariana didnt attend victorias 20th bday party
    i think that she got invited she just didnt want to go. please become friends!

  27. Guys! First of all, of COURSE Ariana liked Victoria! They never said they didn’t like eachother! Don’t you see all those photos of them together and hugging eachother? They were the best of friends! But now, they are just pure enemies. Personally, I’m on Ariana’s team. That reason because Victoria cancelled her tour in Boca Raton just because that’s where Ariana grew up in! Also, Victoria decided not to do a group tour so that Ariana’s new show (Sam and Cat) could be sucessful. #TeamAriana

  28. Um i think they r both kind of being snappy about this haha sam and cat only started because of the other series ending. its clear that that is the reason because they started sam and cat to relive and keep using some favorite nick charaters. And i am on ariana side but victoria had a believable reason. Also they could havr had one mire season but everyone was kind of growing up and such and some people like to start new projects and grow.

  29. noiseofbeyond

    Um… the people above… The network said that both Victoria and Ariana were wrong as to why Victorious got cancelled. And even though I love Ariana to death, I do think that her telling a fan her opinion as to why the show ended was wrong. So… Yeah… Victoria and Ariana had nothing AT ALL to do with the show being cancelled.

  30. Ty

    I think what Ariana did was wrong of her in MANY ways. And really @Lenny D? I know this post is alittle late, but when Ariana said “choose to do a solo tour” that’s kind of saying it was Victoria’s fault. No one went on a solo tour but her. And just by her being on a solo tour isn’t the reason why VICTORIOUS ended. Miranda Cosgrove went on a solo tour and iCarly didn’t end. And she was still filming iCarly. It was just about tme for VICTORIOUS to end. Not that I wanted it to, but still.

    Th show had excellent ratings. It even ALMOST topped iCarly and Big Time Rush. Well actually it did top BTR but My point is.. Ariana should not have done that. She was so sly and secret as she and everybody else thought. She was basically calling Victoria out by… just not saing her name! I hope the girls make up beca use I’m really sad about this whole thing. ILOVE VICTORIA JUSTICE/ ARIANA

  31. alyssa

    I don’t think that they will pure enemies. Eventually they will make up.

  32. alyssa

    Plus the reason why she cancelled her concert in Boca Raton is because of scheduling conflicts. Plus she cancelled her tour as a whole.

  33. I think ariana 100% was telling the truth but they will eventually make up

  34. Shaz

    Okay you know what, I think that there’s a lot of good points being made here but no one has quite got it. By the way, excuse any typos, my keypad isn’t the best.

    Here’s my conclusion and what I think:

    Firstly, Victorious is a very popular show which was clearly shown in the 2013 KCA’s and Victorious won the favourite TV show. So obviously, people watch this show and like it otherwise it wouldn’t have won the category. So, it didn’t end because of poor ratings.

    Anyways, what Ariana says IS quite direct IF you know which girl is going on tour (whihch I guess many Victorious fans knew). So this isn’t a matter of Ariana being discreet and non-direct. Also, what Ariana says does have valid points as they can’t do the show without the main, lead character. If Victoria is going on a tour then obviously there will be hiccups in the shooting and ther will be more problems. You say that solo tours don’t affect the filming but how do you know? Do you know each city she’ll be visitin and thee timings too? And even if you know that do you know the filming schedule of the show? How do you know that the 2 events don’t clash?

    Anyways, this in’t something where Ariana is trowig Victoria under the bus. Because if Sam and Cat and the abrupt end of Victorious, obvously there are speculations and I think it’s pretty obvious that Ariana would have been getting a lot of inquiries about the end of Victorious and whether Sam and Cat ended the show. One can asume that Ariana would have ben getting fed up and you know, obviously when so many people are constantly stabbing at something you care about, after a certain limit you will be fed up and wanna set things straight.

    And this may have been something that cause Ariana to clear things in a more direct way then she could have. You can’t say that she’s trying tomake herself look good a she isn’t PROMOTING Sam & Cat or anything. She is clearing things and stating facts and if that makes her look good then fine. It would be wrong if she was twisting things and manipulating events in order to make her look good. But since she is stating facts, you can’t say she is promoting herself. She can’t help it if it makes her show look good. She is just clearing the name of her show because it has been blamed wrongly.

    Sure, if you wanna say that she could have been nicer about it then yeah, she could have. But you have to consider the fact that the kind of comments the viewers were making about Sam and Cat were too much and Ariana was gettig fed up and the impulse and spur of the moment caused her words to come out harsher then she probably meant. After tht, Victoria was just defending herself in the same way.

    Finally, they have deleted their comments, they have obviously moved on, why can’t you guys?

  35. no affense but it is tech not fair to fans i love victorius

  36. Camila

    Ok ariana is right but that doesn’t mean Victoria should be upset with it. I love both girls equally and it would be a nightmare if they never made up! Ariana and Victoria are best friends!!!! I love them to death and I would die if they aren’t friends any more. PLEASE JUST MAKE UP ALREADY!

  37. Dylan

    Very big discussion here but you all missed one Point. You are Talking about who has the fault but noone considered that it doesnt matter because it is their carreer. If it was Victoria because of her Solo Tour than fine good for her. If it was Ariana because of the other show ok. It would be a usefull discussion if it was Nick´s fault because they wanted a new show with better Ratings like Victorious and Icarly had in the First Season. But now you are arguing about who you should blame but it really doesnt matter.

  38. bob

    i do like ariana grande but not victoria that much but i will agree that ariana said it was victorias fault victorious ended but ariana only said that because she was tired of all the bull shit people were always blaming her jenette for the cancellation of victorious but cmon stop hating ariana yes she is more popular than victoria because she is a talented singer and beutiful we cant blame her and jenette yea the show is called victorious and it is really her show but ariana just happens to be more talented and more people love her so therfore she deserves her own show and more fame and by the way victoria is having a solo carrer and going on tour with big time rush so she shouldnt be bitching if she has a solo carrer and a tour coming up and by the way ariana is beutiful and flawless and sings way better than ugly victoria justice!

    • Alyssa

      I know you don’t like Victoria but insulting he just means you have nothing better to do with your stupid useless life. She has more talent than you’ll ever have.

    • Kayla

      I like Ariana a bit better than Victoria too, but you shouldn’t be hating on Victoria. Victoria is a beautiful talented girl just like Ariana. You shouldn’t be taking sides. They shouldn’t even be fighting. They’re supposed to be best friends. It really disappoints me that both of these amazing singers are fighting :’c

  39. Arielleclaresta

    Are they still feuding? Hope not… Cause i love both of the girls…..

  40. okay okay u all should calm ur balls down okay theres gonna be a season 4 and thats gonna include me in it

    JKS BUT HERES A LETTER TO VICTORIOUS THE SHOW

    DEAR VICTORIOUS CAST CREW
    OR WHO EVER CANCELLED THE SHOW

    I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEASON 4 AND NO THIS IS NOT A 14 YEAR OLD BOY BUT A 8 YEAR OLD GIRL WOULD U PLEASE START UP SHOW AGAIN AND MAKE SEASON 4 AND PLEASE LET MY 14 YEAR OLD BROTHER IN IT HIS NAME IS CHRISTIAN ULBERG AND I LOVE VICTORIOUS

    PS:I SMOKE CRACK

  41. Nyx

    Victoria all the way… B-)

    lol, really poor decision on Ariana’s part for taking on someone more talented and way bigger than herself. A “solo tour” can’t possibly be the end of one of Nick’s most popular shows; now she’s just plain hating… max episode count or network discontinuation sounds more logical. But then again, she plays the dumb girl on Victorious… how much dumber could she be in real life? :P

    Plus, Victoria has every right to fire back. She played the lead role (Tori Vega), she was the lead singer in all of the Victorious albums, she gets her own tours, she stars in her own movies… (the list goes on, solo career is coming ;) ). So why would she want to willingly end her own show… and who does Ariana think she is calling Victoria out like that? If she didn’t like “the bs”, she could’ve said anything and everything but blame it all on a friend. And for all the retards who claim “she didn’t call her out by name”… oh, come on. It’s pretty obvious, so I’m afraid it’s Ariana who’s “hiding from the truth”. Victoria did the right thing defending herself from a phony friend. Using Ariana’s own words to describe the demise of their friendship: “…that’s the way the cookie crumbles…”

    R.I.P. Victorious, shame on you Ariana

    • Kayla

      I don’t think it’s Ariana’s fault, I don’t think it’s Victoria’s either. All of you need to stop taking sides because both of these girls are supposed to be friends, they shouldn’t be fighting.

      P.S. Ariana isn’t dumb!!

    • Angelina Bear

      I know it’s a late response, but the fact that “Nyx” compared Jennifer Lopez to Carly Rae Jepsen, well, it’s so ridiculous that I can’t take her opinion seriously. That’s not even to mention that she is trying to seem clever by insulting Ariana in her defenses of Victoria. The smileys may be cute when you’re talking with a boy you have a crush on, but in an argument where you want to be taken seriously, it seriously hurts your obviously biased argument.

  42. Kayla

    Victoria and Ariana shouldn’t be fighting. I don’t think it’s anyone’s fault. I love both girls and they should just start being friends again. It upsets me that both of my favourite singers are fighting. I hope they become friends again :c

  43. Anonymous

    It was wrong of Ariana to blame Victoria so blatantly, even if she truly is the one to blame. But I am inclined to believe that Ariana is telling the truth. Ariana still gets along with the cast of Victorious really well and she is still working for Nickelodeon. These facts tell me that Victoria was probably selfish. Nickelodeon didn’t see a serious commitment to the show any more from her, and she being the main character they decided Victorious should be cancelled. She is no longer working there and she doesn’t meet up with the rest of the cast, which just tells me she is not in the best terms with them. This all points to the fact that Ariana is telling the truth. It doesn’t make any sense to cancel Victorious, a very successful show, to start a completely new one without really knowing how that is going to turn out. It wouldn’t be a wise decision for Nickelodeon.

    Besides why would Ariana start a fight with Victoria over something she made up? Just for the sake of fighting? Ariana is not like that and this doesn’t make any sense at all. Besides Ariana is specific, which tends to be a characteristic of the truth, and she was explicitly public about it. Victoria replies vaguely and doesn’t provide a valid alternative to the fact that the show was cancelled. She knows she was selfish and put herself before Nickelodeon and the rest of the cast of Victorious.

    • Nyx

      “Ariana still gets along with the cast of Victorious really well… Victoria doesn’t meet up with the rest of the cast, which just tells me she is not in the best terms with them.”

      You make a good point… it does seem a little odd that Victoria no longer meets with the rest of her Victorious cast. She also cut out her cast in some songs of the Victorious soundtrack (Shut Up and Dance with Liz Gilles, Ariana Grande, Matt Bennett, & Daniella Monet; Finally Falling with Avan Jogia; Faster Than Boyz with Leon Thomas III), which seems kinda selfish (but then again it’s her show, so…). And (if you’ve ever seen), it’s mind boggling how every cast member except Ariana was present in the All I Want Is Everything flash mob in Universal Studios Hollywood. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see Victoria’s true colors… :-/

      “…she [Victoria] is no longer working there [Nickelodeon]…”

      I think it’s safe to say that Victoria has used Nick and Victorious to better establish herself as a performer, and is moving on to bigger things (like her solo career in music and movies). :D

      “she [Ariana] is still working for Nickelodeon”

      Still working… as the dumb girl. xD

      “Besides, Ariana is specific…”

      I don’t exactly agree with your statement. Keep in mind that Ariana said in her post “one girl”. She never specifically said Victoria’s name (although neither did Victoria state Ariana’s name specifically, but it’s still obvious Ariana called out Victoria). :-|

      “Besides why would Ariana start a fight with Victoria over something she made up?”

      To protect her own reputation by putting all the blame on Victoria. Stepping on other people to get to the top… tsk tsk tsk… Plus, at the time, the launching of Ariana’s solo career and The Way was a very crucial period, and she couldn’t screw all that up with the comment she made against Victoria. ;)

    • Alyssa

      One: How is Victoria selfish? Just because she doesn’t work at Nickelodeon anymore? Avan Jogia doesn’t work at Nickelodeon. Neither does Liz , Leon, Daniella or Matt. So how does that make her selfish?

      Second: Who said Victoria didn’t get along with the cast? Last time I checked, she had a fight with Ariana, not the rest of the cast. She hung out with Liz in Boston, she hung out with Avan a few weeks back. Just because she didn’t come to their mini cast reunion doesn’t mean she didn’t get along. Daniella wasn’t their either. Did anyone notice that?

      Three: Why would Ariana start a fight with something she just made up? Obviously to get people like you to believe she telling the truth. She said the show was cancelled because of Victoria’s solo tour. But when Miranda Cosgrove went on a tour during her show, Icarly, Icarly wasn’t cancelled. So why would they just randomly cancel Victorious, a very popular show on Nickelodeon?

      That’s just my point of view. I love Victoria/Ariana

  44. Anonymous

    Nyx I can’t reply to your comment for some reason. Why do you say Ariana is still working for Nickelodeon, as the dumb girl? Are you implying she’s dumb for still working there? It doesn’t matter if her character is dumb, she is clearly not and her personality is allowing her to build a very big, solid fan base. This is crucial for a successful career in entertainment. I can’t agree with you. By working there she is pleasing her fans further. And this isn’t holding her back at having a very successful music career.

    Her career right now is in much better shape than Victoria’s. Her single, The Way, obliterated Victoria’s Make it in America. She has more fans and she puts a lot of effort into treating them right and paying as much attention to them as she can. They are responding. Her single was number 1 on itunes and currently has 35 million views on Youtube. Victoria is not as dedicated to her fans as Ariana, and if she is starting to be, that is because she is following Ariana’s example and not the other way around.

    What I am referring to with “specific” is that Ariana mentions a specific event as being the reason for Victorious’ cancellation. Victoria doesn’t come up with a valid alternative as to why it was cancelled and guess why? She doesn’t have one. This points to Ariana telling the truth and besides she sticks to it (she said on twitter you can’t hide from the truth). All clear indications that she has a solid argument based on facts.

    And Ariana doesn’t need to step on other people to get to the top. She’s already getting there without doing that. She just needs to keep being herself. And it is undeniable that she is way more talented than Victoria. Victoria doesn’t even sing half as well. Maybe in the acting department Victoria could beat Ariana (although Ariana won a National Youth Theatre Association Award for her role in 13 The Musical in Broadway for best actress). But then again Victoria is ditching her acting career in favor of her music career, not a very wise choice of her in my opinion. It seems that the dumb girl is rather Victoria and not Ariana.

    • Alyssa

      How do you know that Sam and Cat didn’t cancel Victorious?

      What if Victoria did what Ariana did to her first?

      What if Victoria got sick and tired of people blaming her for Victorious and she went live on twitter and said. ” Sam and Cat is the reason Victorious was cancelled! One girl was selfish and got her own show on the SAME NETWORK and using the SAME CHARACTER she used on Victorious. I’m tired of this bs” That would seem like a valid reason and that would ruin her career.

      How is Ariana more dedicated to her fans? Just because she’s got more twitter followers, doesn’t mean she’s more dedicated to her fans. Just because she has a hit single doesn’t mean ANYTHING. I really don’t see where you are coming from.

      Plus, why would Victoria want her own show to be cancelled? It was so unprofessional of Ariana to blame her publicly, destroying their friendship just to protect herself.

      The only one dumb here is you.
      I personally love Ariana and her songs. I will watch Sam and Cat, and I hope she’s successful, but she also has to realize on day she was wrong.

      Well at least Ariana got what she wanted. Less people hating her and more people hating Victoria.

    • Nyx

      “Her [Ariana's] single, The Way, obliterated Victoria’s Make it in America.”

      Don’t get me wrong, Ariana Grande is an exceptional actor and singer, but not in comparison with Victoria Justice. ;) If you have noticed, not many songs make it to the top when they are affiliated with a kid TV show (take Selena Gomez for example; her music became even bigger after Wizards ended). But once Victoria gets into the flow with her solo career, I’m sure Ariana will have something to worry about… :D

      “…that is because she [Victoria] is following Ariana’s example and not the other way around.”

      lol, that’s kinda hard to believe, since Victoria got her show first, then Ariana… -___-

      “What I am referring to with “specific” is that Ariana mentions a specific event as being the reason for Victorious’ cancellation. Victoria doesn’t come up with a valid alternative as to why it was cancelled…”

      Well maybe she was being mature by trying not to escalate the situation by just putting out a warning shot to defend herself… :) even if she didn’t give a “valid” or “specific” reason, at least she didn’t blatantly call out Ariana out of rage. Whatever the case, I respect the privacy of the Victorious situation, and Ariana should’ve too.

      “But then again Victoria is ditching her acting career in favor of her music career…”

      Not entirely true… she is staring in an upcoming movie “The First Time”, maybe more to come… ;)

      “And it is undeniable that she [Ariana] is way more talented than Victoria.”

      loool ok, here’s the rundown:

      Victoria’s acting roles (8): “Zoey 101″ as Lola; “iCarly” as Shelby Marx (and briefly Tori Vega); “Fun Size” as Wren; “The Boy Who Cried Werewolf” as Jordan; “The Penguins of Madagascar” as Stacy; and finally “Victorious” as the lead role Tori Vega (“The First Time” as Jane coming soon)

      Ariana’s acting roles (4): “Winx Club” as Princess Diaspro; iCarly (briefly as Cat Valentine); “Victorious” as Cat Valentine (“Sam & Cat” as Cat Valentine coming soon)

      [source: IMDb]

      So you can see that Victoria has double the roles (but technically Ariana only plays Cat Valentine in multiple shows, so I don’t know if those count… :P). And again, once Victoria gets into the solo gig Ariana will be nothing but a memory… xP

      “Ariana doesn’t need to step on other people to get to the top.”

      She stepped on people TO get to the top. xD

  45. Alyssa

    I have to take Victoria’s side on this one.

    No way

    Is Ariana Grande serious? Is she really blaming Victoria ? Victoria had nothing to do with it.

    Certainly the only thing Ari’s claim has done is ruin a friendship and get people to blame Victoria other than her.
    Likewise.

    Victoria is not the reason Victorious ended. No one had even thought about that possibility before Ariana said it, to spare her new show, and herself.

    Stop bashing Victoria when its her show that got shut down. Plus why would she want her own show to be cancelled? She did nothing wrong.

    From me

    ***Victoria said she was SHOCKED and saddened when she found out that Victorious was cancelled. She was blindsided. It was Daniella who revealed the news to her via text message. Victoria’s reactions and messages to fans showed she was devastated that it was cancelled. This show was designed for her. She was the heart and soul. Ariana’s claim makes no sense whatsoever. Ariana was lying considering Victoria didn’t set her tour dates until after the show was cancelled. If Ariana had any class, she would apologize to Victoria Justice for slandering her name and wrongly placing blame. Now most people are wrongly attacking Victoria and claiming Ariana told the truth when Ariana was obviously lying to stop the criticism over what Sam & Cat caused.

    Ariana threw Victoria under the bus to protect her image and prevent people from boycotting Sam & Cat. It was unprofessional and unethical. Who is getting most of the blame and hate now? Victoria. She had every right to address this.

    None of the other cast members had any other work set up until AFTER Victorious was cancelled. Ariana landed a role on another show while Victorious was still being filmed. Do the math and connect the dots. The network wanted to get rid of musical-themed shows and aim for a different demographic with sitcoms. Ariana didn’t just randomly appear as Jeanette’s co-star. They had planned this for months and pitched this to the network. Nick has a history of cancelling shows once spin-offs or follow-up with other cast members are developed. For example, The Amanda Bynes Show-Drake & Josh-ICarly.

    Everybody else from the cast was very upset about Victorious ending and tried to console fans while Ariana had to whine and make excuses so she wouldn’t get hate. Even before the cancellation was confirmed, she said that both shows would be filmed at the same time with her getting dual roles. That was just never realistic.

    Miranda, Jennette, and etc. all had albums/tours during their show’s run. That can’t be blamed especially when Victoria’s new tour with the schedule was announced way after Victorious was cancelled.

    Ariana was trying to save her own ass and she did it at Victoria’s expense. Victoria’s tweet was the truth because Ariana lied. Clearly, she did not value Victoria’s reputation, friendship, or the truth.

    Not to mention, Ariana started this by posting this online. Now the fandom is at war with Victoria getting most of the blame and hate.
    P.S I got this from luvcabefelu. I agree with her.

  46. Alyssa

    I have to take Victoria’s side on this one.

    No way!
    Victoria had nothing to do with it.

    Certainly the only thing Ari’s claim has done is ruin a friendship and get people to blame Victoria other than her.
    Likewise.

    Victoria is not the reason Victorious ended. No one had even thought about that possibility before Ariana said it, to spare her new show, and herself.

    Stop bashing Victoria when its her show that got shut down. Plus why would she want her own show to be cancelled? She did nothing wrong.

    From me

    ***Victoria said she was SHOCKED and saddened when she found out that Victorious was cancelled. She was blindsided. It was Daniella who revealed the news to her via text message. Victoria’s reactions and messages to fans showed she was devastated that it was cancelled. This show was designed for her. She was the heart and soul. Ariana’s claim makes no sense whatsoever. Ariana was lying considering Victoria didn’t set her tour dates until after the show was cancelled. If Ariana had any class, she would apologize to Victoria Justice for slandering her name and wrongly placing blame. Now most people are wrongly attacking Victoria and claiming Ariana told the truth when Ariana was obviously lying to stop the criticism over what Sam & Cat caused.

    Ariana threw Victoria under the bus to protect her image and prevent people from boycotting Sam & Cat. It was unprofessional and unethical. Who is getting most of the blame and hate now? Victoria. She had every right to address this.

    None of the other cast members had any other work set up until AFTER Victorious was cancelled. Ariana landed a role on another show while Victorious was still being filmed. Do the math and connect the dots. The network wanted to get rid of musical-themed shows and aim for a different demographic with sitcoms. Ariana didn’t just randomly appear as Jeanette’s co-star. They had planned this for months and pitched this to the network. Nick has a history of cancelling shows once spin-offs or follow-up with other cast members are developed. For example, The Amanda Bynes Show-Drake & Josh-ICarly.

    Everybody else from the cast was very upset about Victorious ending and tried to console fans while Ariana had to whine and make excuses so she wouldn’t get hate. Even before the cancellation was confirmed, she said that both shows would be filmed at the same time with her getting dual roles. That was just never realistic.

    Miranda, Jennette, and etc. all had albums/tours during their show’s run. That can’t be blamed especially when Victoria’s new tour with the schedule was announced way after Victorious was cancelled.

    Ariana was trying to save her own ass and she did it at Victoria’s expense. Victoria’s tweet was the truth because Ariana lied. Clearly, she did not value Victoria’s reputation, friendship, or the truth.

    Not to mention, Ariana started this by posting this online. Now the fandom is at war with Victoria getting most of the blame and hate.
    P.S I got this from luvcabefelu. I agree with her.

  47. Alyssa

    Go to Google, search Untitled The Victorious Feud and click the first one you see at the top. You’ll find luvcabefelu’s comment.

  48. Alyssa

    I have to take Victoria’s side on this one.

    No way

    Victoria had nothing to do with it.

    Certainly the only thing Ari’s claim has done is ruin a friendship and get people to blame Victoria other than her.
    Likewise.

    Victoria is not the reason Victorious ended. No one had even thought about that possibility before Ariana said it, to spare her new show, and herself.

    Stop bashing Victoria when its her show that got shut down. Plus why would she want her own show to be cancelled? She did nothing wrong.

    From me

    ***Victoria said she was SHOCKED and saddened when she found out that Victorious was cancelled. She was blindsided. It was Daniella who revealed the news to her via text message. Victoria’s reactions and messages to fans showed she was devastated that it was cancelled. This show was designed for her. She was the heart and soul. Ariana’s claim makes no sense whatsoever. Ariana was lying considering Victoria didn’t set her tour dates until after the show was cancelled. If Ariana had any class, she would apologize to Victoria Justice for slandering her name and wrongly placing blame. Now most people are wrongly attacking Victoria and claiming Ariana told the truth when Ariana was obviously lying to stop the criticism over what Sam & Cat caused.

    Ariana threw Victoria under the bus to protect her image and prevent people from boycotting Sam & Cat. It was unprofessional and unethical. Who is getting most of the blame and hate now? Victoria. She had every right to address this.

    None of the other cast members had any other work set up until AFTER Victorious was cancelled. Ariana landed a role on another show while Victorious was still being filmed. Do the math and connect the dots. The network wanted to get rid of musical-themed shows and aim for a different demographic with sitcoms. Ariana didn’t just randomly appear as Jeanette’s co-star. They had planned this for months and pitched this to the network. Nick has a history of cancelling shows once spin-offs or follow-up with other cast members are developed. For example, The Amanda Bynes Show-Drake & Josh-ICarly.

    Everybody else from the cast was very upset about Victorious ending and tried to console fans while Ariana had to whine and make excuses so she wouldn’t get hate. Even before the cancellation was confirmed, she said that both shows would be filmed at the same time with her getting dual roles. That was just never realistic.

    Miranda, Jennette, and etc. all had albums/tours during their show’s run. That can’t be blamed especially when Victoria’s new tour with the schedule was announced way after Victorious was cancelled.

    Ariana was trying to save her own ass and she did it at Victoria’s expense. Victoria’s tweet was the truth because Ariana lied. Clearly, she did not value Victoria’s reputation, friendship, or the truth.

    Not to mention, Ariana started this by posting this online. Now the fandom is at war with Victoria getting most of the blame and hate.
    P.S I got this from luvcabefelu. I agree with her.

    • Anonymous

      Well you have very solid arguments and information I did not know of. This changes the situation entirely, if everything you’re saying is the truth. I, however, don’t have the time to do such a thorough research right now and don’t consider it worth my time anymore. If what you say is true, then Ariana has some apologizing to do for sure. And by the way you don’t need to call me dumb. I understand what you’re saying and agree with you now that you’ve brought new information to the table, but based on the rest of entries I had read, I was just inclined to believe Ariana was telling the truth.

      It really saddens me to even consider that Ariana would do something like this to protect herself and put the blame on somebody else. And it is still hard for me to believe she would make all of this up. But I can’t deny that something here is incoherent and somebody must be making stuff up. I guess I will never be able to know for sure.

    • Anonymous

      A thought just came to me that could completely topple everything you and luvcabefelu said. The central argument supporting everything states that Victoria announced her tour schedule way after Victorious was cancelled.

      Well here’s the thing: Nickelodeon could’ve known the tour schedule way before it was even announced. Victoria probably told Nickelodeon she was very interested in doing a solo tour and informed them when her concerts would tentatively take place. This assumption is perfectly reasonable, since whenever you sign a contract you must normally tell your employers what you’re up to and if this could in any way affect your current job, so that they can plan ahead of time. Nickelodeon noticed there was a conflict of interests and ultimately decided that Victoria was no longer that interested in continuing with the show. So they decided it was best to cancel Victorious right then and there. Just because this didn’t happen before with Jennette and Miranda doesn’t mean it is not the case here.

      Victoria might have been very sad and everything, but that doesn’t mean she didn’t have anything to do with it. Once again, Ariana could be telling the truth. So unless you can come up with insider information, which you probably can’t, you can’t say she just made that up. I know she wouldn’t do something like that. It was wrong of her to say it publicly, but it doesn’t mean she is lying.

  49. Anonymous

    To NYX:

    You are taking fragments of what I said and putting them out of context, without taking into account everything I said about each particular point I made. So I still can’t agree with you on more than one point.

    Ariana is definitely a better singer than Victoria. That is just undeniable. It’s a fact.

    Make it in America wasn’t related to Victorious, yet it wasn’t nearly as successful as Ariana’s The Way. I have to say that Ariana is definitely in much better shape when it comes to singing and her music career.

    I did say that Victoria could beat Ariana in the acting department. Nevertheless, Ariana did win a very prestigious acting award at a very young age. And you forgot to mention her roles in theater, which requires considerably more skill than television, since you can’t do retakes once you screw up. It doesn’t matter how many roles someone has played, that doesn’t mean they are more skilled.

    And Ariana did NOT step en people to get to the top. I don’t think she provoked the cancellation of Victorious to have her own show, and she landed Cat’s role fair and square. She’s also not stepping on anyone in her music career. I don’t understand why you would say that.

    • Nyx

      “Ariana is definitely a better singer than Victoria.”

      Well it all depends on how you look at it. Ariana has the high pitched (somewhat annoying) jazzy voice, while Victoria has the deep ranging pop voice. Matter of preference… ;)

      “Make it in America wasn’t related to Victorious…”

      lol it was performed on Tori Goes Platinum, and was included in the Victorious 2.0 album… I’m pretty sure it’s related. :) I guess Victoria tried to use Victorious as a platform to get a single to the top… not a very wide decision for her part. Shoulda waited to go solo. :-/

      “And Ariana did NOT step en people to get to the top…”

      Well it looks like Ariana tried to end Victoria at an early stage so her music wouldn’t get to the top, all because of some petty fan comment she could’ve ignored (way more classy). Good luck with that. Victoria Justice album 2013 ftw. xD

      “And you forgot to mention her roles in theater, which requires considerably more skill than television…”

      Theater shmeater. -__- Victoria performed for the president and for the entire nation on Christmas 2012. Plus Ellen. Plus The View. Plus the summer tour with BTR. Plus . Topped again. ;P

      “It doesn’t matter how many roles someone has played, that doesn’t mean they are more skilled.”

      Uh, it kinda does. It shows just how much directors want you for their films and/or TV shows… of course they want someone with one-of-a-kind talent and someone who is honest and loyal… like someone I just mentioned that starts with a letter “V”. xD

      Clearly Victoria has more talent and more ground to use against the likes of a somewhat hypocritical Ariana. This is a debate you cannot win… :)

  50. Anonymous

    I don’t need to win the debate, facts speak for themselves. Ariana is doing a lot better than Victoria when it comes to music. Her voice is much more powerful so no, it does not depend on preference, she is just a better singer. And there are really lousy actors that have been on a lot of movies. So again, it doesn’t necessarily mean you are a better actor becuase you’ve performed more roles.

    Clearly you’re just biased, because Victoria is definitely not more talented. She is not more talented in the music department by a very long shot. And in the acting department? She has never won a serious award, whilst Ariana won a National Youth Theatre Association Award for BEST ACTRESS. You just intentionally ignore everyhing I tell you and come up with some lousy response to justify something that’s clearly not true.

    Ariana also performed on Ellen and she performed in the latest Wango Tango along the likes of Bruno Mars, Avril Lavinge, Maroon 5. Demi Lovato, Fall Out Boy and Will.I.Am. She wouldn’t have been invited to sing there if she were not talented, way more than Victoria. Besides her single was first aired by Ryan Seacrest, I mean seriously? Don’t be so blind, Ariana is clearly in much better shape when it comes to her music career.

    And besides Ariana’s comment has nothing to do with Victoria’s music, so your argument is invalid.

    And Make It in America was Victoria’s single and it had nothing to do with Victorious, it was never performed on the show. Just because it was sold along with other songs Victoria did perform on Victorious doesn’t mean anything. Why didn’t people buy Make It In America on itunes just as much as they bought The Way? On itunes you just buy the music you like, you don’t need to buy a full album, yet Victoria’s song was not nearly as popular as Ariana’s. So a lot of people favor Ariana’s music over Victoria’s, and I don’t need to say more about it. Ariana is a much better singer.

    • Nyx

      Most of us here probably know that Wikipedia isn’t a very reliable source, but it does say on there that Victorious ended due to max episode count (which is around 60)… so that kinda closes this topic. *awkward*. I guess Ariana did hate on Victoria after all… ;P

      “And Make It in America was Victoria’s single and it had nothing to do with Victorious, it was never performed on the show.”

      Ok seriously, go watch Tori Goes Platinum again. Like now. -___-

      “Her voice is much more powerful so no, it does not depend on preference, she is just a better singer.”

      Ok, so maybe Victoria can’t reach the higher notes or generate vibrato as easily as Ariana can… but look at JLO and Carly Rae Jepsen. They are successful and talented in their own ways. Victoria’s just less screechy and less high pitched than Ariana… and less irritating. :D

      “Ariana won a National Youth Theatre Association Award for BEST ACTRESS.”

      Oh please. Ariana cannot carry a personality of a role or convey a convincing scene nearly as good as Victoria can. Although she may have won that award, Victoria has been acting (and on TV in general) for a very long time (10 years old, Zack & Cody). She has been nominated for way more awards (more than 10) and has won 3 of them, whereas Ariana was only nominated for 3 awards and only won 1. This clearly shows that Ariana has not been on nearly as much films or shows as Victoria, nor does she have superior experience in the acting business. Just get back to me when you’ve got actual numbers… ;P [source for Victoria's nominations and awards: IMDb; couldn't find info on Ariana's on IMDb, so: Wikipedia]

      “Ariana is doing a lot better than Victoria when it comes to music.”

      …maybe as of now. But we’ll just have to see when Victoria’s music comes out. In the mean time though we can enjoy her in Fun Size, The First Time, and the BTR tour. xD

    • Alyssa

      How is Ariana more talented? Just because she won a National Youth Theatre Association Award for best actress? One award doesn’t define her whole acting career.

      And Ariana isn’t a much better singer. I don’t get when people sing higher, they think that person is a way better singer than someone that sings lower. Victoria is a person that sings very well low, while Ariana rocks it at very high notes. Doesn’t mean anyone is better than anyone. And just because she been on Ellen doesn’t mean anything either. It’s just a way to promote her music. Nothing special.

      So why do dish on Victoria when you can be happy for both of their talents?

  51. Anonymous

    I don’t even know why you wrote the first paragraph. It is as if you don’t read what I write. We are no longer talking about why Victorious was cancelled or not, we’re talking about why Victoria is definitely not more talented than Ariana, especially in the music department. So what do you even mean awkward? Besides you said it yourself, Wikipedia is not very reliable.

    So Make It in America was performed on the show. Not important. It still doesn’t change the fact that Ariana is just a better singer and way more successful at it.

    And who are you to judge how good Ariana is when it comes to acting compared to Victoria? I don’t care about your opinion and Victoria’s nominations are mostly in kids shows which definitely don’t prove anything. Anyway, my focus is on music, and Ariana wins. As of now and for the next 50 years. That’s that.

    • Nyx

      “I don’t even know why you wrote the first paragraph…We are no longer talking about why Victorious was cancelled or not.”

      Well that was the initial topic that was being discussed, until you took it a step further by comparing Ariana and Victoria… I’m just here to defend the innocent [Victoria]. ;P

      “I don’t care about your opinion and Victoria’s nominations are mostly in kids shows which definitely don’t prove anything.”

      My opinion, or IMDb facts…? Ariana has almost no nominations (kid show or not), so she practically has nothing TO prove. xD

      “And who are you to judge how good Ariana is when it comes to acting compared to Victoria?”

      Well let me ask you the same question… who are you to judge how good Victoria is when it comes to acting compared to Ariana? Victoria has more experience in every field (singing and acting, performing in general) and has the potential to surpass many teen pop stars (including Ariana), so the facts speak for me… ;)

      Unless you’re gonna continue this petty little drama on who’s better, the facts speak louder than opinions. But to get this back on track, It [technically] has been proven through Wikipedia and tweets from the executives (like Dan Schneider) that the cancellation of Victorious was the network’s decision (60 episode limit), so it is neither Ariana’s nor Victoria’s fault the show was cancelled. But, Ariana needed someone [Victoria] to blame so that her fans would stop blaming Sam & Cat for the cancellation of Victorious.

  52. Alyssa

    Anonymous, with your comment about how you found a reason to top mine, I still don’t get where you are coming from.

    Sorry for calling you dumb last time.

    Just because Victoria said she wanted to do a solo tour, doesn’t mean they would cancel the entire show because of that. They could’ve just let her go on solo tour and done the show, just like Miranda’s and Jennette’s tour.

    Just because she into a solo music career doesn’t mean she isn’t interested in doing Victorious anymore.

    And how did know that happened? You don’t have a copy of the contract? Do you?

    • Anonymous

      I don’t, but normally contracts do have that clause. I’m just saying this because I think it’s quite a plausible possibility. The fact that Victoria published her tour dates after Victorious was cancelled, which is your main argument in the last thing you wrote, doesn’t prove that Ariana is lying. That’s all I am trying to say. Why? Because Nickelodeon could’ve known the tour dates ahead of time. How do you know for sure that in this case in particular the tour didn’t interfere with the show? Or that it didn’t bring about a confilct of interests? That’s something you can’t know either. You may base your statement on past events, but this case could be different. I’m just leaving that possibility open.

      I really wish none of this had happened in the first place. But I also can’t believe that Ariana would make this up entirely. That just baffles me. Maybe I’m biased and favor Ariana too much, but normally I’m a good judge of character and I still can’t believe Ariana would lie publicly like that. Just my opinion.

  53. Alyssa

    I also agree that this should’ve have happened. It tarnished a friendship completely. And it cause fandoms and people like you and I to argue about who’s right and who’s at fault. And I get you are on the Ariana’s team and I’m on Victoria’s. Hope they become friends again! :)

  54. I really know that all of you are wrong. Because, they’ve reached the maximum level of episodes. Which they signed. I just wish Ariana and Victoria become bestfriends again. Oh pleasee

  55. victoriousluva

    Everyone stop fighting! Please Ariana and Victoria stop fighting and make up. People look up to you 2 as rolemodels. I look up to you as rolemodels! I think I might start liking someone else like liz gillies. The person who started the fight by saying that ariana ruined victorious you must be ashamed of yourself!

  56. syereen

    @Alyssa

    I strongly agree with you. Ppl seems to push the blame on Victoria and taking Ari’s side when they knew in the first place who is being unprofessional. Vic even write her own ending for the show and wish for proper ending. She also did mention and hinting the new show Sam & Cat. On the other hand, Ari goes on and blame Vic for the cancellation of Victorious just to protect herself. And you guys blame Vic for replying back? lol funny. Delirious Ari’s fan…

    • Alyssa

      I know right??!! I don’t know what’s up with that! We all know who started it but yet many delusional people still take Ariana’s side. Until I hear a real apology from her to Victoria, I’m gonna claim her as a liar. Miranda Cosgrove went on tour but icarly wasn’t cancelled. So obviously when she said that, she wasn’t thinking straight!!!!

    • Alyssa

      We should write this to her on twitter and see if she responds!

  57. Kristen

    Everyone! Calm down it was just a show and yes it was the best show but please! Nickelodeon will have other shows just like this so there is really no reason to blame anyone! The show “Sam and cat” is a great show too! So just calm down nobody should be pointing fingers

  58. okay i’m on victoria’s side becuase her solo tour would not stop the show and i read on a magazine that ariana grande wasn’t happy filming victorious so she went to do the sam and cat show

  59. KIKIGIRL

    ive done my research and this is the right and final answer.It was not arianas fault but it was not victorias fault the show reach 60 episodes so they stopped filming it someone blamed ariana for her new show,sam and cat and ariana got tired of all of the nonsense so she blamed it on victoria,victoria had her tour after victorious was canceled it was not arianas fault or victorias fault they reach 60 episodes and that was the max now people are making up stories blaming people taking sides this needs to stop they need to be friends again they were both my role model but now it would be wrong f me to pick a side when it was no ones fault.

  60. Victoria justice is a bitch, ariana did nothing wrong but stick up for herself and ugly fat ass victoria tried to make herself look good when she was wrong ! Her fans made ariana leave a fan meet and greet early and in tears because of the the stuff they were saying to her!! Victoria and her fans should be ashamed!!!

  61. spencer

    but i was also Ariana’s fault cause she started SAM and Cat

  62. Andrea Mel

    I don’t understand why everybody is freaking over this! EVERYBODY HAS DRAMA! even celebrities! it’s Victoria’s fault for being a bitch to Ariana. she’s just jealous of ariana. ariana has everything to offer. she’s beautiful and an amazing actress and singer. arianator for life. Victoria sucks!

  63. Andrea Mel

    I don’t understand why everybody is freaking over this! everybody had drama! even celebrities. you can’t just remove drama from your life. Victoria started the drama with ariana when she said she would never like her. Victoria was a bitch to ariana. she just jealous of ariana! ariana has everything to offer! she’s beautiful and an amazing actress and singer. and Victoria is a lip syncing bitch. arianator for life

    • Alyssa

      In case you haven’t noticed, Ariana said afterwards that she actually meant that it happened when she was on Broadway. Not Victorious. She even said that people jumped to conclusions! People like you! And Victoria wasn’t Broadway. So get your facts straight you so called “Arianator!”

  64. Jak

    Look this is stupid! Ari is way right and so is Vic! I love them both and once in a while we all make mistakes! But personally I think ari shouldn’t have pointed it to Vic but Vic should just be more considerate of others even though you are a stinking pop star! So do one thing for me and make up and get on with life!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.s. the idoit who said it was ari’s fault is low life good for nothin person who should mindhis own business!

  65. Alyssa

    Lies. Ariana knows they couldn’t film Sam and Cat simultaneously with Victorious because that would mean Sam would have to be on the show at times. And that just wouldn’t make sense. Plus Ariana doesn’t sing on Sam and Cat so it would make no sense if she is on Victorious singing. She knows it wouldn’t work out. She was just tired of the hate, but blaming Victoria was still the wrong thing to do. #VictorianforLife

  66. Team Ariana

    Jason Lee should just shut up and so should most of you, Ariana was just upset at the cancelling of Victious and Victoria was just defending her-self.
    The reason the show was cancled wasn’t because of ‘Sam And Cat’ or Victoria’s tour it was the retarded media’ fault.

  67. well I like sam and cat better than victorious because its more funny and way much better with scenery and all of it. anyways ariana is way much better than victorious at acting p.s. I wish I could meet her one day and not victorious

  68. nene

    Ok victorious was cancelled but umm Leon thomas (Andre) need to do something I miss him he was my favorite. Him and Cat were my two favorites and the best singers too

  69. I loved victorious!!!
    It was my favorite show on TV !!

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